旼컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴커 � 컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴 � � � � � � � Interviewer(s) : Entropy & Trite � � � � � � � � Interviewie(s) : Anti-Dirivative � � � � � � � � Subject : Fate � � � � � � � � Date Interviewed : June 6th, 1996 � � � � � � � 컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴 � 읕컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴켸 旼컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴커 � 컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴 � � � � Defacto : Recently Fate Decided to change the name of the well � � known and EXTREMLY popular #Fatefiles to something new � � and something that did not even hint Fate in the name. � � Can you tell us some of the reasons behind this change? � � � � Anti-D : There are 2 reasons: � � 1) fATE needed to disassociate itself with it's humongus � � offer channel's name. We had everyone employed at � � the SPA in the channel just laughing it up and � � kicking our couriers. Sending emails to their root's � � and so on. Lots of attention we didn't need. � � 2) It was fun, it was neat, but it was time we released � � it from our control. We were spending way too much � � time constantly trying to regain control of #fatefiles � � from lame "irc takeover groups" that made #ff their � � #1 target. A sort of breaking into fort knox on irc. � � So it is now run by another group, we still have some � � policy decisions and bot access though. It's a huge � � stress release � � � � Defacto : People have rumored and gossiped about the different � � reasons that Fate has received such a bad name. The � � main reason that people associate this with is Fatefiles � � and Fates dedication to IRC couriering. Something that a � � lot of people think is a waste of time. How do you � � comment on that? � � � � Anti-D : hmm, I would hardly say we have a "dedication" to irc � � couriering. We've always once on the net had our sites � � at the core. Infact we did little if any irc courier at � � first. If of our couriers curry on irc, it was by their � � own choice. We don't really care either way about it as � � long as it doesn't interfere with their ftp assignments. � � As for our bad name, people just do it because they get � � into a habit. There are a lot of elitists in the scene. � � I don't know why people rag on us, and I don't really � � care. I, nor does the rest of my crew need to hear from � � anyone that our group sucks. We are very happy, and we � � know we are doing great and getting better. � � � � Defacto : So your saying #ff wasn't even a necessity of fate � � couriers, it was something that fate couriers did on � � their own ambition? � � � � Anti-D : Well, not exactly. #ff was started and operated by us, � � officially, from the council, not by the couriers, but it � � was not part of our jobs list. It was sort of a side thing � � and since we were the first to do it, it became huge. � � Eventually it manifested into a monster, as you know if � � you join the chan :) � � � � Defacto : Recently (2-3) months or so ago I guess.. Mikeysoft � � Joined Fate as a Senior. Can you tell us about the � � groups decision to invite him in and what exactly � � happened in the SHORT period of time he was with the � � group. � � � � Anti-D : We invited him in because he was qualified and had � � specifically lended us a hand in a very trying time for � � the group. Mikey is, no doubt, incredibly smart and � � seasoned for the scene, and in business in general. � � Mikey actually did not do a whole lot. He was coined � � Public Relations Manager, but with his various IRC � � adventures and millions of other jobs he was doing, he � � didn't have much time for fATE, which left him just � � hanging out a lot, but that was ok. He was there when we � � needed him, and when he came he always brought a lot to � � the table. � � � � Defacto : So why was he allowed membership in fate if he didn't do � � a lot? Was it because fate was insuring more channel � � security with him being an irc operator? � � � � Anti-D : Not at all. Mikey had always helped us with #ff a good bit � � before he was in the group, and he was always willing to � � help. His allowance into the group was not relevant to � � his o-lines. Infact he has saved #ff2 (I'll call it :) ) � � a couple times since out of fATE. He was allowed � � membership because of experience, contacts, maturity, � � wit, and common sense. Things found very rare on the net � � and in the scene in general. I leap at the chance to � � find a senior member with those qualities. Besides, like � � I said, Mikey was there when needed for the most part, we � � just sorta let it slide. Mikey was definitely a unique � � situation though. I don't want to give the impression � � that our seniors are allowed to slack because it is quite � � the opposite. � � � � Defacto : Fate is such a large group but really has not made a name � � for Itself on some of the bigger sites such as LA, BBX, � � CRC and some others. Is Fate not trying to become the � � best or are you as some people say "A Courierngr group � � for the masses"? � � � � Anti-D : Neither. I don't define the best by other peoples sites. � � We just started getting some presence on LA, BBX and CRC, � � btw- BBX, started as a fATE site and well, that's a whole � � other story. Anyway our sites are packed and fast. Our � � main site is comparable to CRC or LA. Maybe we may miss � � a release by 5-20 mins, what group doesn't. All groups � � get some things faster as you know, mostly dependent on � � their "official releasers". We are the best group for � � everyone in our group and always will be. fATE is a tight � � crowd and we've come a long long way, we haven't lived so � � long and watched others come and go by luck, without � � getting too "disneyish" there is a bit of a magic to fATE, � � a difference between it and other groups in the scene. � � That's what we pride ourselves on more then presence on � � LA. � � � � Defacto : Fate, to me, does not seem to be wanting to improve its � � image. A groups moral presence in itself, I agree, is a � � good thing to have higher than that of what other people � � think of you. But I have noticed almost anytime somebody � � from Fate enters a channel and starts talking about Fate � � they are blasted almost immediately for even mentioning � � the name. This is something to me that would atleast start � � to nerve me a bit. Do you feel that this is something that � � maybe the Seniors in fate should be working on improving � � (By getting better on LA, BBX, etc.) to improve your � � image to help your couriers out there in irc/Judgment. � � If not for their respect that they deserve? � � � � Anti-D : Well, not exactly, if you've been in the scene, you know � � that the majority of ppl in it are, well, childish. � � Anybody who says that fATE is lame is saying because � � they don't know us, because I've been in a lot of groups: � � TDU-JAM, RiSC for a short while, DoD, quite a few years. � � I know what lame is, and know what not if you call fATE � � lame, then you, yourself are a liar, because you don't � � know anything about fATE and I know this, and the seniors � � know this, but yes, it is very disheartening when a new � � courier might have to deal with this. It would be nice to � � be on more sites of the "big l33t sites", but we are just � � concerned about it fATE is on a different level (not � � higher or lower) but a different idea I assure you. � � Anyone on a fATE site has all the warez damn near as fast � � as LA or CRC or whatever. That's what matters. � � � � Defacto : Some other groups in the past have changed their name as � � a move to "start with a clean slate," has fate considered � � this to escape its reputation? � � � � Anti-D : Yes; And we have unanimously decide not to. We don't need � � to cower behind a new name. I have never been more proud � � in my life period, and I know many of the council / � � seniors / members feel the same. I wouldn't change the � � name if there was guarantee to be #1 by a landslide. � � Groups that are willing to change their name just to be � � popular with the other kids on the playground are the � � same groups that come and go. fATE/RiSC remain. � � � � Defacto : Okay well thank you for your time. Is there anything else � � you would like to say before we end? � � � � Anti-D : I see a LOT of new groups talk about in there nfo's, � � "If you want maturity and a solid professional group � � with no fooling around come to " all � � the time, and they talk about how they are so experienced � � and blah blah, and you find out it's a hyper 12 year old � � running the show screwing up the whole ordeal now, � � without sounds like a elitist, because I despise them. � � Their ripping fATE off. We made professional, we made � � like a business, we screened for age and only brought � � in mature members. fATE is the group that has the unique � � qualities of maturity, loyalty, experience, good � � infrastructure, and vision for the future not to say that � � other groups do not, but don't just copy our damn nfo � � speeches and lie. I don't expect many to understand what � � I'm saying it's a personal pet peeve and it just pisses � � me off. so there. blah. :) � � � � 컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴 � 읕컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴켸