Session Start: Tue Sep 21 01:26:06 1999 [01:26] *** Now talking in #amnpriv [01:26] *** Caserd sets mode: +snti [01:26] *** Joins: MossyOak (mossyoak@pm3-163.ekx.infi.net) [01:26] *** Caserd sets mode: +o MossyOak [01:26] *** Caserd sets mode: +o glen [01:26] we need to get some boxes going for moss glen [01:26] he says he may quit rts is this serios [01:26] so lets work on bringing some 100mbits in ASAP [01:27] hehe.. glen is my best bud i think :) if i scratch myself to do some serious work here and mossy is fucking with us i might kill myself ;/ [01:27] moss: well we have many places to give leech [01:27] anyways.. yeah glen.. i'm pretty tired of being depended on [01:27] but we just need the recruiting skills hmm [01:27] i didn't say i would join AMN.. i'm just kinda shopping [01:27] we have many ISO/VCD/MP3 sites to give out [01:27] so please understand that first :) [01:27] euro at first i was gonna come here and fuck with u mossy but ill be honest right now even i dont have a shell in AMN [01:28] actually.. to be honest.. deezle, ydevil, sitez all wanna quit with me lol [01:28] i only have 4 boxs.. and their all 10mbit sitez will never join amnesia [01:28] and i wanna get away from that [01:28] all i care about anymore is [01:28] getting a 100mbit shell.. and a .edu [01:28] 100mbit for my razor pres.. and raceing when i get spare time maybe you should join dev then , causae they stole all of ours :D [01:28] and the .edu for my mp3 trading in RNS.. and iso preing for RAZORISO [01:29] well.. i might do that.. like said.. i am just checking diff places now im being most honest with u, we dont even have a shell for me [01:29] i'm totally outta politics and shit anymore and im like, head leader of amn [01:29] i don't care groups reputations anymore [01:29] whos in them [01:29] or anything [01:29] as long as they can gimme the 2 things i need [01:30] and i'm gonna help out whoever with what i know.. [01:30] considering i have led my own team hrmm well moss [01:30] i know quiet about about helping out [01:30] but AOD knows this already [01:30] DEV will know Do you think you will be a loyal member to our team? you have shown to be loyal in the past [01:30] i just thought i'd talk to caserd yeah but i am above caserd in amnesia [01:31] no.. i'm gonna be 100% loyal to whoever i join [01:31] *** go-ku has left IRC err, well we are like equals [01:31] its just that i'm no longer wanting to be the dependant one [01:31] glen, tell him about our boxes now really..i think we can trust him [01:31] for shells and whatever hmm [01:31] i'm sooo tired of that [01:31] don't have time anymore ryan are u sure? [01:31] yes glen [01:31] he seems loyal [01:31] and trustworthy [01:31] and he can bring in some good guys [01:31] also [01:31] so just tell him Mossy, the best we can give you now is a 100mbit hj.se or a 100mbit hut.fi also a 100mbit mit.edu [01:32] hrm [01:32] 10mbit backups [01:32] seee.. this is what i heard [01:32] lemme think who told me [01:32] oh yes [01:32] we're working on some 34mbit backups [01:32] zeus21.. we're good buds [01:32] i never told others [01:32] he just told me about 2 months ago or so [01:32] that u all had about 7-8 huts [01:32] 4 hj's [01:32] couple liu's [01:32] is that accurate ? that was then it multiplied itslike our boxes had kids or something [01:33] sins told me today that u all had like 4 hut's i was talking to dev today they have 3 emtpy hut.fi [01:33] and a kth [01:33] and thats about it we have 4 empty hut.fi, not 4 hut's total sins is a moron you should know that [01:33] i don't need 10mbit backups btw [01:33] i have 4 he doesnt have a vocabulary past the word homosexual [01:33] 10mbit's to me are nothing better then places to store warez for personal leech :) [01:34] well i'll be honest here [01:34] i'm totally out of it lately [01:34] seriously sure sure.. [01:34] i haven't been keeping up with shit in the warez scene well [01:34] other then the warez releases [01:34] games wise That is our best offer the hj.se/hut.fi [01:34] i download warez/iso game rips and the mit [01:34] and supply patches for razor [01:34] razor/rns is really all i am involved in also there is no way sitez will join amnesia ever so help me god so long as i am leader [01:34] u must understand [01:34] glen: we can give sitez/deezle/ydevil 100mbits too can't we? [01:35] that i'm in college.. at age 22 [01:35] and very very busy [01:35] can't expect me to come in and be trading 15 hours a day [01:35] like some high schooler :) mossy you're babbling like old times do you want our offer or not [01:35] i know [01:35] *** go-ku is on IRC (ray) [01:35] i just like to make clear [01:35] glen: he could always be our FTP coord [01:35] we are in dire need of one [01:35] what sites do u add on moss? nah [01:36] i know teams know what i've done in past.. just wanna make sure they don't expect me to be trading like some madman [01:36] becuase i really don't have time guys :/ [01:36] i love to trade.. don't get me wrong [01:36] but college comes first i think i will make elocin ftp coord soon [01:36] trading is no fun at all on 10mbit shells mossy [01:36] so i basically just gave up [01:36] fuck u glen [01:36] hell no you told us that like 5 times already [01:36] glen.. just making sure u know [01:36] like i said [01:36] glen: WhoAreU is gonna be our ftp coord [01:36] nigger you arent gonna trade, yadda ydada we know [01:36] i don't want high expectations put on me :/ as long as u know [01:37] yes.. i'll trade.. when i find free time sitez cant join period [01:37] i don't like trading like 3-4 hours a week.. [01:37] i picture myself trading in times like [01:37] xmas break [01:37] 1-2 weeks then [01:37] its freetime [01:37] 10mbit shell though.. i wouldn't even bother [01:37] but with 100mbit.. i can compete with anybody.. i am positive of that [01:37] i have a superior macro setup [01:38] as far as leadership skills [01:38] i'm sure u all figured out i know a little about that.. xavier prolly knows about my ability to recruit boxs and stuff [01:38] but time is the issue here :/ [01:38] if it wasn't for time [01:38] sure.. i'd jump right in and recruit 40 boxs and trade 50 hours a week like everybody else [01:39] but i'm unfortunatly not in high school anymore :/ [01:39] basically.. like said 15 times already [01:39] i just don't want high expectations.. and i want all teams to know that before i join anybody [01:39] well moss [01:39] i'm no loser or anything [01:39] but i spend like 8 hours a day online [01:39] and i'm in college [01:39] *** lester has left IRC [01:39] i do misc leadership stuff [01:40] but u know how much time that consumes [01:40] yeah.. [01:40] i know all about leading man [01:40] i took it too serious [01:40] and it becomes work honestly [01:40] its fun and all to be considered a leader at first i thought [01:40] glen takes it to heart [01:40] but it became a job for me [01:40] i mean i really think he would die for some ppl in the scene [01:40] because when i became MNM leader [01:40] that's how dedicated he is [01:40] everybody else that was supposed to help me [01:40] backed out i would take a bullet for lester [01:40] yep [01:40] and i carried the team for 2 years [01:40] u gotta take it in your own hands [01:41] thats why it never did good in last 2 years [01:41] it was me and me only :/ [01:41] every single little thing that needed one was left to me [01:41] had like 40 request for ppl wanting shells [01:41] and ppl wanting on sites [01:41] and boxs wanting leeches [01:41] and then college was gonna start [01:41] 3 weeks before [01:41] i merged [01:41] i told RTS i had 3 weeks to help settle in [01:41] then i cannot lead no more [01:41] somebody will have to take over making sure admins are happy [01:42] yea rts did good for about 2 weeks [01:42] and ppl are on boxs [01:42] and nobody did [01:42] and 3 friends left me [01:42] like ep-80 [01:42] and sacx [01:42] and that sucked [01:42] now i am told today that deezle and ydevil are tired of waiting [01:42] so i decided to give up on RTS [01:42] they are a US team [01:42] i should have realized mossy [01:42] figured i'd get who i could.. honestly whatever happend to that, "MNM will never die while im still around" [01:43] sitez said he's trade if he had hut.fi.. but i told him he don't have many friend outside us RTS guys [01:43] loyalty & tenacity is the key [01:43] deezle will follow whevever i go [01:43] we don't want any other in AMN [01:43] and so will ydevil deezle and ydevil is loyal sitez is loyal but he is a fucknut [01:43] those 3 guys always been loyal to me [01:43] and i've always been loyal to my team [01:43] ofcoz he is sitez trading is no help, the only sites that he isnt deleted off of is like FOS [01:43] but he's intelligent man and who cares [01:43] and hard working [01:43] i like sitez man [01:43] stfu glen [01:43] he's taught soooo many couriers in MNM [01:44] u wouldn't believe [01:44] taught many many ppl to trade [01:44] but he has a bad rep i taught so many people to trade that stabbed me in the back its not even funny [01:44] because of that old pftp shit that shit dont matter [01:44] i don't care though.. [01:44] yeah.. lots of AMN ppl sitez helped half the ppls that were in MNM will me i taught them bohnz,bizzybone etc.. [01:44] well.. about the MNM thing man [01:44] moss: what do you think of godbless / x-frog joining AMN? [01:44] i said that sure [01:44] they want to join bad [01:44] but somewhere i had to draw the line [01:44] it was me and me only keeping MNM alive [01:45] and i have a life [01:45] college comes first [01:45] so i gave it up [01:45] couldn't do both [01:45] and college is way more important then warez [01:45] would godbless join ? [01:45] if so.. i'd take him [01:45] he's expressed interest [01:45] xfrog is kinda cocky [01:46] xfrog has also been known to narq ppl too mossy you do understand [01:46] so that wouldn't be a good pickup if you are in AMN dont expect any type of leadership position [01:46] glen.. [01:46] i don't want it :) good u're nto gonna get it :) [01:47] i wouldn't take it if u offered [01:47] u don't understand.. hehe [01:47] thats what i wanna get away from [01:47] i don't have time yeah i dont understand, tell me again :( [01:47] thats why i am spliting from RTS [01:47] i don't want them to ask me to revive the euro team [01:47] because they killed it for me [01:47] leading a team is the last thing i want [01:47] thats what i've been trying to tell u [01:47] it sucks honestly [01:47] its more time then what i have [01:47] for once in a long time [01:48] i wanna be the lamer who begs for the shell :) hey [01:48] like glen im leader and i still beg for a shell [01:48] want me a good fast euro shell [01:48] and a good .edu [01:48] thats it [01:48] i don't understnad though [01:48] u talked as if u had no shells at all at first well we didnt think u were serious would you tell joe schmoe that you had 20 boxes if they said "i want to join" [01:48] i would really appricate if i was enlightened on the shell situation.. i will promise though [01:49] ppl try to steal if they know you have stuff [01:49] that anything i say here.. will remain here [01:49] i will show around other groups [01:49] what ppl don't know won't hurt them yep [01:49] to see where i'd prolly fall in best [01:49] where ppl won't care if i perform or not hmm [01:49] if u tell me.. u've got my word well mossy man let me ask you [01:49] that it stays here Why would AMN want you? you tell us why you are a good fit [01:49] i'm shopping for whatever is in my best interest.. and thats basically it you have went on for 30 mins about how you wont courier but you want the best shell [01:50] it's obvious glen [01:50] he's a great scene guy why does AMN want you? [01:50] he's had many experiences [01:50] good and bad i dont know caserd im still a little baffled [01:50] just for the name man..a legendary name belongs in a legendary group... plain and simple well man i dont get it, if all mossy needs is shells for razor pres why not just ask razor for a shell and stay with rts i mean if mossy is anything he is the most loyal guy in the scene [01:51] hmm good point something is pretty fishy here for him to come to AMN i just want to hear whats up from mossy himself [01:51] *** Joins: MossyOak- (mossyoak@pm1-55.ekx.infi.net) of why he thinks he will be good in AMN [01:51] glen...repeat to moss the last few statements yeah [01:52] *** Caserd sets mode: +o MossyOak- you have went on for 30 mins about how you wont courier but you want the best shell [01:50] it's obvious glen [01:50] he's a great scene guy why does AMN want you? [01:50] he's had many experiences [01:50] good and bad i dont know caserd im still a little baffled [01:50] just for the name man..a legendary name belongs in a legendary group... plain and simple well man i dont get it, if all mossy needs is shells for razor pres why not just ask razor for a shell and stay with rts i mean if mossy is anything he is the most loyal guy in the scene [01:51] hmm good point something is pretty fishy here for him to come to AMN i just want to hear whats up from mossy himself [01:52] ok.. to answer ur question [01:52] first.. razor doesn't have shells :( [01:52] but [01:53] its not just for razor pre's [01:53] like said.. i really love to trade and compete [01:53] its just that i don't have the time i used to [01:53] but when i do find time [01:53] like xmas breaks and such [01:53] i'd really enjoy to work with a good shell.. and compete with the current couriers out there [01:53] because i know i can [01:53] but.. otherwise [01:53] if i'm on a box.. don't expect me to be using it much [01:53] so its not a burden really [01:53] *** dhunter is on IRC (dark hunter) [01:54] as for how i can benefit [01:54] well. [01:54] its all about time [01:54] when i got time [01:54] u'll find me on shitloads of irc networks... [01:54] recruiting boxs [01:54] xavier will tell u how can AMN gain from having mossy on our team? [01:54] everything he knows about box recruiting [01:54] i do as well [01:54] just from what i know i guess [01:55] its all about time though [01:55] yep the scene is about time [01:55] its only my freetime when i can actually contribute to a team [01:55] as far as helping newer couriers out [01:55] getting them on sites [01:55] don't wanna be egoistic [01:55] but i can prolly get most any solid courier on any site [01:55] just by knowing all siteops mossy you are aware Lester is a figure in this group and in the past you havent exactly worked well with him [01:55] *** mossyoak has left IRC [01:55] *** Quits: MossyOak (Ping timeout: 360 seconds) [01:55] and being on the sites for so long [01:55] siteops just trust me [01:55] thats the way it is [01:56] if i think somebody is worth.. they usually gimme a trial for them [01:56] lester and i.. well [01:56] we go way back [01:56] we only had the hard times in DMS/MNM days [01:56] but umm.. what u don't know [01:56] is back before i was MNM leader [01:56] lester used to beg me to join AMN :) [01:56] too loyal to doobie back then though [01:56] but those were good days [01:56] back when Fubar was AMN USHQ :) [01:57] and lester was a dod leader also [01:57] we've talked since DMS breakup what about other groups, what other groups have you talked to so far and what is your conclusions on them? [01:57] i have nothing against lester anymore [01:57] as far as him towards me.. dunno [01:57] just AOD [01:57] bohnz knows i am looking around [01:57] *** go-ku is on IRC (ray) [01:57] i know what shells AOD has who did you speak to in AOD? [01:57] etc.. [01:58] bohnz [01:58] he's gonna ask gollie you are aware bohnz has no power in aod [01:58] hmm [01:58] he's the shell guy he claims ehh [01:58] i don't care really.. he's just relaying to gollie [01:58] all i really asked about was their shell situation [01:58] and just like i promised u [01:58] i promised him [01:58] *** dhunter has left IRC matter of fact about 1 hour ago i was talking to xfrog and we were talking about how all these new aod peeps think they are aod leader when in fact they are nothing :> [01:58] i'm not gonna share what he said about their shells [01:58] not into politics anymore [01:59] *** dhunter is on IRC (dark hunter) yes, we heard.. like 9 times [01:59] i'm just picking whats gonna be best for myself [01:59] and as far as me in AMN again [01:59] i'm sure u all would like to have my alltime megs on sites like sth, ms, la, fs, etc.. [01:59] would help out on group altops [01:59] moss: you are aware that AMN is politics, we fuck with other groups..our whole purpose for existance in the first place was to WIPE OUT risk [01:59] hehe suprisingly between me/stix/kruzin we do quite well compared to other groups on the gpal on sites [02:00] case.. thats cool with me [02:00] i just don't care to be involved :) [02:00] k :) [02:00] do all u want :) [02:00] as long as i got the couple of shells to work with [02:00] i'm happy [02:00] if it be AMN [02:00] if it be DEV [02:00] if it be Risc [02:00] if it be Motiv8 [02:00] heh [02:00] what about fATE? [02:00] just ask that they don't require me to perform all the time [02:01] i don't care.. its just that i know m8 and fate don't have what i need :) [02:01] =] [02:01] they might be able to gimme at @home shellbox though [02:01] or roadrunner.net [02:02] care to enlighten me on the actual box situation here ? i told you twice what we can give you [02:02] what u all say will remain here.. i am just curious we can give you what you asked for its just, do we want to [02:02] moss: can AOD give you what you asked for? [02:03] right.. but i'm just curious to if there is only 2-3 boxs.. and lots of ppl using though ? [02:03] case.. bohnz claimed he had room [02:03] he's checking with gollie the boxes we give people, its 1 per box there is only 1 (maybe 2) couriers on each of our box [02:03] we give 1 per main box(100mbit) [02:03] i told them i'm not joining nobody till i check around and see where i think i'll fit in the best [02:03] 2 per backup box [02:03] well.. in that case [02:03] put 2 on my box fit in the best = who has the best shells ? [02:03] becuse i won't use much [02:04] well.. not that.. mainly like i said.. being the group thats not gonna push me to perform oh [02:04] when i have such a busy life schedule yeah yeah ofcourse [02:04] i dunno which team that might be [02:04] but being what i am asking for [02:04] i don't wanna be asked back.. i think what i know can benefit any team [02:05] and when i have free time.. i can apply that and help [02:05] recruit boxs.. or trade.. or whatever [02:05] i don't need my own box [02:05] because i won't use it much [02:05] but to know i have 1 or 2 there is what really matters ic.. so what is your conclusion so far of AMN? [02:05] thats basically what i need :) [02:06] well.. i like so far.. u all worried me at first [02:06] brb..clipping my asshairs [02:06] because sins said DEV stole a box from u all like i said earlier [02:06] then case said that DEV stole them all sins is about 13 years old [02:06] and right there i didn't think this would work at all [02:06] yeah.. well.. i barely know him :) [02:06] like i said.. i've been outta it [02:06] i just knew he was AMN [02:06] so i asked him about ur alls boxs his main idea for weekend pleasure is to rip nonworking isos on his shell and pack them as -CORP releases with bad diz flies [02:07] may i ask something / flies=files [02:07] the # of boxs u all have on hut.. etc.. ? [02:07] hj.se [02:07] and whatever ? [02:07] i'm just curious how good u are as a team on boxs on boxes doign what? recruiting them? [02:08] because being that i want shells.. i do actually care that the team performs well [02:08] no.. curious of the number of boxs [02:08] like huts [02:08] hj's [02:08] and whatever i dont know we have a few only 1 hj i think maybe 2 its empty anyway most people beg for the hut but hj is just as good [02:09] no idea how many huts ? over 5 less then 10 i dont know, guys come and guys go but the stable ones is over 5 [02:10] when we first restarted AMN we had like honestly 30 empty boxes [02:10] half of them were 100mbit [02:10] yes.. thats about what zeus told me [02:10] he said about 7-8 huts [02:10] 4 hjs [02:10] 2 liu's [02:10] the kth.se that r11n runs [02:10] is that accurate ? [02:11] yes [02:12] what happened to them all / [02:12] if ur down to 5-10 ? [02:12] just curious thats 5-10 hut.fi boxes only you asked [02:12] oh :) [02:12] 1 hj our total # of boxes is over that amount [02:12] still got the 100mb kth.se of r11n / i thought u meant of hut.fi only not sure, caserd do we? [02:12] yeah i did.. i just confused myself :) [02:13] i've been up 20 hours :) [02:13] yup [02:13] thats cool [02:13] well.. how about the .edu box situation ? [02:13] because i am about to become to main RAzor ISO guy [02:13] as far as preing and couriers [02:13] i dunno much about our edu [02:13] glen handles US shit [02:13] i'll be preing most all the Razor ISO's [02:13] US ISO sites = tops.. [02:13] thats one motivation behind this [02:14] to get me a very good .edu box we dont got that many US boxes we do have a 100mbit mit.edu box which is available [02:14] and ofcoz.. a very good euro nobody uses any of our USA boxes they just use them for ssh [02:14] hrm.. and ofcoz case knows how much mp3s i trade [02:14] a .edu would help there [02:14] yeah :) [02:14] i actually value a good .edu shell now :) [02:15] i need one [02:15] i heard that cornell.edu is about the fastest link in the nation now well mossy case has to get some sleep [02:15] mit the only .edu u guys got ? not that its bad [02:15] that'd work just well [02:15] i'm just curious you know what we got [02:15] im out guys.. [02:15] night [02:15] * Caserd is Now Idleing.. bed ..Msg's ARE Saved ·C-Script· we gotta hit the road [02:15] yep [02:15] gnite case [02:15] well.. ok [02:15] i'm still gonna talk to DEV im audi also getting tired [02:15] but is there interest in sitez/deezle/ydevil ? sitez is an aboslute positively never in my lifetime no [02:16] because they would come if wanted.. all good buds of mine.. and all loyal as long as i am around the other two are loyal guys who can trade pretty well [02:16] deezle/ydevil i think have unlimited potential [02:16] to as how good they can be [02:16] with the right shell ok [02:16] my idea is this [02:16] if i was to join [02:16] listen [02:17] i got a VERy stable LU.se [02:17] that would come [02:17] needs 1 iso leech and he's happy [02:17] i give deezle/ydevil both accounts there [02:17] put ydevil on the hj.se.. and me mossy we gotta go [02:17] ok [02:17] we'll talk later then [02:17] caio dont call us we'll call you [02:17] *** mgd is on IRC (midnight grave digger / dev peep) Session Close: Tue Sep 21 02:17:54 1999