[18:16] *** Joins: jessworky (jess@godcomplex.*.net)
[18:16] *** Joins: msaint (~mrsaint@quake2.xForce.NET)
[18:17] <[sitez]> and XF too
[18:17] <[sitez]> they ul at same time
[18:17] <[sitez]> that aint fair
[18:17] <[SNap]> I WANNA GIVE OTHERS A CHANGE TOO!
[18:17] <WHiTENiTE> that never happened before that i remember..
[18:17] <[sitez]> and while we at it
[18:17] <[sitez]> lets ban
[18:17] <msaint> what ?
[18:18] <msaint> we always pre to all xf sites all at same time :)
[18:18] <rebysP> lets ban people who have awesome oc3 shells in sweden
[18:18] <rebysP> its not fair to us traders
[18:18] <[sitez]> ya
[18:18] <[sitez]> msaint
[18:18] <[sitez]> that aint fair :)
[18:18] <[sitez]> it aint fair to do that
[18:18] <[sitez]> hehe
[18:18] <[sitez]> im makin a pont
> saint that's not true
> bizzy pres to some other sites that arent xf
> :)
[18:18] <msaint> jessworky: u wanna bet ?He has permission to pre to vdr
thats all :)
[18:18] <msaint> if I dont say go MP aswell :)
> vdr isnt xf site
[18:19] <[SNap]> MP isn't xf site
[18:19] <msaint> yeah I know.. :) thats why I said He has permission to pre
to vdr thats all :)
[18:19] <msaint> <msaint> if I dont say go MP aswell :)
[18:19] <msaint> if I dont say go MP he wont go MP :)
> he also pred to fh on many occasions when it was online
[18:19] <[SNap]> yeah
[18:19] <[SNap]> so ..
[18:20] <[SNap]> yep
[18:20] <[SNap]> he pre's to all the sites he's on
[18:20] <[SNap]> that's the fact..
[18:20] <[SNap]> or at least all the sites he thinks it's worth to move to... :)
[18:20] <msaint> no he isnt.. if u say he is give me PROVES that he isnt using
proxy.. as everyone else..
[18:20] <[SNap]> hehe
> saint, xf lost sth because he didnt pre there
[18:20] <[SNap]> msaint..
[18:20] <[SNap]> he was ready on VDR
[18:21] <[SNap]> when you were on 1 megz with same disk on E
[18:21] <[SNap]> 5 megz disk
[18:21] <[SNap]> fxp ?
[18:21] <msaint> jessworky: we didnt loose sth.. sth gave up.. we always kept
sth when it was down and all they just quit.. no our problem..
[18:21] <msaint> didnt see it as any lost either..
> nope not ur prob
> but now it's alot better of a site in my opinion because of the prm affil
[18:22] *** rebysP is now known as Psyber
[18:22] <msaint> yeah but PRM sucks and gives out free webwarez.. and if its
quality a siteop wants instead of a lot of crap releases they would stay xf.. :)
> uh huh
[18:22] <msaint> as our sites are too :) staying..
> ur opinion :)
> im not even in prm and i like them
[18:22] <msaint> many siteops opinion
[18:23] <Grade> yeah two reasons
[18:23] <SnoopRock> prm has many quality releases
[18:23] <Grade> vgn gets it pre
[18:23] <Grade> and sth gets it first
[18:23] <msaint> yeah but most of the crap prm releases is either free from webs
or carded for about 50bucks. we do quality expencive HARD to get CRACKs :)
> Grade, prm pres only to prm sites
> msaint, what's wrong with webwarez? many releases that you guys release can be
found on web sites
> like symantec.com ?
[18:23] <msaint> dont care if they pre to sth first.. :) they probably do what
they did before did it to all shit
[18:23] <SnoopRock> Grade: prm pre's to all their sites at the same time
> mrsaint: and alot of these "crap" releases you are talking bout, alot of
people use
[18:24] <msaint> its to easy to crack thats all would take us a few seconds to
start same thing.. just push out warez. but its no use as its crap :)
> crap is in the eyes of the beholder
[18:24] <msaint> yeah but I bet alot of ppl using LIGHTWAVE and SOFTIMAGE and
MAX and alot of others we did
> as enigmas rule list so rightfully puts it
> btw i remember prm racing xf on some release and losing
> and even though xf lost it still put out the release
[18:25] <msaint> yeah well we probably gave up as its shit..
> i guess xf is releasing lots of "crap" too
[18:25] <msaint> ooooooooooh yeah
[18:25] <msaint> when we have requests for fan-club :)
> sure
> and wither it's crap or not, it takes alot of work to put out as many releases
as they have
[18:26] <msaint> but its still crap :)
[18:26] <msaint> well its not hard to crack easy things and ask someone to pack
it :)
> it's not easy to put out 200 releases in a month
[18:26] <msaint> yes it is..
> i've never seen xf do it
[18:27] <msaint> no coz we do cracks that takes days to crack not things that
takes hours..
[18:27] <msaint> what I know of its more then 200 hours in 30 days.. :)
> msaint, if i were to go do a site dupe on xf im sure i would see lots of
releases that no one would dl
> ur calling expensive releases quality while the ones that are 20 or 30 dollars
as "crap
> that's wrong
[18:27] <[SNap]> CRT RULEZ
[18:27] <msaint> could be but lots of what prm is releasing is crap.. :)
[18:28] <[SNap]> and that's done by CORE :)
[18:28] <Grade> xf puts out quality prm puts out quantity
[18:28] <Grade> the majority of prm rels are crap
> msaint, u need to get off ur delusional crack rock
[18:28] <SnoopRock> ya right
[18:28] <Grade> they do get some decent stuff from time to time
[18:28] <msaint> yeah but we try to keep us to quality and not quantity of crap
[18:28] <msaint> :)
[18:28] <Grade> xf does crap rels
[18:28] <slider> saintas, mabye XF puts out a lot of quality but i know myself
ive never downloaded a XF rel..do i go bustin yo ass nig?
> Grade, i do remember lots of people saying the same thing bout class, how they
put out quantity before quality
[18:28] <slider> because i know SOMEWHERE someone is using it
> but class has put out many good game releases and is deemed by many to be #1
games group
[18:29] <slider> same with prm rels, u may not use it but plenty of others are
[18:29] <Grade> in games you release what you can get
[18:29] <msaint> slider;: u treathing me ?
[18:29] <Grade> in utils you go after what you want
> Grade, ur opinion means jack, u think whatever group ur in at the time is the
best
> u thought prm was best at one time, then siege, now rise
> so really ur as biased as they come
[18:29] <Grade> i never thought prm was the best
[18:29] <SnoopRock> lol
> liar
[18:30] <Grade> siege yes
[18:30] <Grade> rise no
[18:30] <slider> msaint, i aint doin shit..im just tellin you just because u
think prm releases crap doesnt mean anyone else does
[18:30] <SnoopRock> prm is the best currently
[18:30] <Xavier-> grade owns
[18:30] <Xavier-> heh
[18:30] <Grade> i knew something was wrong when prm was putting out
Secrets.to.a.Happy.Car
[18:30] <msaint> slider: i bet there is alot that thinks most of prm is shit :)
trust me
> here comes mrsaint's backup
[18:30] <msaint> Grade: AGREE!
[18:30] <slider> like i said, i've never downloaded a XF rel, but i know fucking
people do use it..so i dont publicly bitch saying "XF RELEASES CRAP NO ONE USES"
[18:31] <BlackBull> jess: im not the backup of anyone
[18:31] <msaint> slider: well maybe ure not into gfx :) as most of our fan-club
is :)
[18:31] <msaint> haha
[18:31] <slider> fanclub? hahah
> fanclub :)
[18:33] <msaint> not that only prm stinks there is more groups :)
[18:33] <msaint> Cc: Wanna3d@aol.com
[18:33] <msaint> togh: leaders@xforce.net
[18:33] <msaint> Subject: You guys kick ass
[18:33] <msaint> Hey thanks to xforce (siege sucks big time).  By the way are
guys releasing a
[18:33] <msaint> non crashable 3dsmax2, i recieved siege's version and it suck
badly
[18:33] <msaint> there :)
[18:34] <msaint> fan-club
[18:34] <slider> msant, wow a aolamer likes your rels..XF owns now!
[18:34] <slider> mad respect niggy
[18:34] <msaint> slider: gets about 200 mails a day :)
[18:34] <Grade> let's talk about all the nonworking xf releases
[18:34] <Grade> dragon dictate?
[18:34] <Grade> duh
> hehe :)
[18:34] <WHiTENiTE> are you sure those 200 arent for ChinaBlue?
[18:34] <Grade> they dont admit mistakes they just release updates
> Grade, ya or re-release the whole thing over again
> and callt he last one fake, or mistake :)
[18:35] <BlackBull> jess: tell me any mistake or fake
[18:35] <Grade> Dragon Dictate
> bull go look on sr nukelist, oops it's down
[18:36] <BlackBull> and??, anyone else?
[18:36] <Grade> you forgot a file in the release and it wouldn't work
> or ask wintrhwk if you want im sure she'll remember bizzy moving a pre and
nuking it
[18:36] <Grade>970629 Dragon.Dictate.Naturally.Speaking.v1.0-XFORCE 47664KB
[18:36] <Grade>970706 DRAGON.DICTATE.NATURALLY.SPEAKING.UPDATE-XFORCE 17KB
[18:36] <Grade> boom
[18:36] <BlackBull> grade: anything else??
[18:36] <msaint> we might call it update when its fix :)
[18:36] <Grade> hold lemm dupe check xf
[18:36] <msaint> better call it that then fix :)
> saint why?
> so you can say 'the company fucked up not us'
[18:37] <msaint> jessworky: coz its an update to better then last :)
> bottom line is, u groups are afraid of competition and prm is kicking ur asses
and u say they suck because they're not releasing stuff as your "standard"
[18:37] <Grade>  970727   DIGITAL_FUSION_V1.16-XFORCE  3838KB
[18:37] <Grade> doesn't work right
[18:38] <[dee]> flash2 is elite
[18:38] <msaint> donno.. all we release is always tested..
[18:38] <BlackBull> jess: then u standard  is really slow
> now ur standards are thousand dollar programs
[18:38] <BlackBull> and useful
> ill bet you more people downloaded win98 beta, then ur 150 meg universal
translator
[18:39] <msaint> well win98 beta aint fun releasing either :)
[18:39] <msaint> but Ive gotta run now anyhow cant take shit ..
> it's fun to use
[18:39] *** Parts: msaint (~mrsaint@quake2.xForce.NET)
> wimp
[18:39] <BlackBull> jess: u can get win98 betas from free, at least here
[18:39] <[dee]> im running win98 1708
> bull the point is, you call it crap but people want it
[18:40] <Grade> uhh i'd say 80% of prm rels are never even unzipped
[18:40] <Grade> there is actually a market for the rels from the better groups
> im sure my account on xf sites will be gone within 24 hours btw :)
> good thing i dont trade no more
[18:42] <[dee]> haha
[18:42] <Psyber> hehe
[18:42] <Psyber> GO JESS!
[18:42] <[sitez]> what did u doo jess
> voiced my opinion
[18:42] <[sitez]> oh yeh
[18:42] <[sitez]> that can get u banned on xf sites =)
> sitez, like i care
> the only xf site i care about is dl, which im siteop on
[18:43] <[sitez]> ya
[18:45] <WiSHMSTR> PRM kills X-Force , and most of PRM releases are Quality too
, Call us the Only Quality and Quantity Group
[18:45] <[sitez]> prm ownz :)
Session End: Fri Mar 13 18:46:32 1998