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Defacto, 9. by Defacto (df)

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Piston reveals Release On Rampage's (ROR) release of Quake is a hacked demo.
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 ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
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 │                                                                            │
 │   Well everybody, its unfortunitly time to bid Defacto goodbye.            │
 │                                                                            │
 │   I will not go into detail on why we all have decided to do this instead  │
 │   I think it would be better to touch on something better. Also please     │
 │   before I continue do not come into #Defacto asking us why we have        │
 │   decided to do it. I would like to take this time to thank all of the     │
 │   people who have helped us with Defacto (In no peticular order).          │
 │                                                                            │
 │   Incarnate    -  More then you will ever know man                         │
 │                                                                            │
 │   Hurt         -  Okay Folks. Lemme just say one thing. If you are ever    │
 │                   and I meen EVER in need of VGA art work done this guy    │
 │                   is your man. He is INCREDIBLE. Thank you for all of      │
 │                   your help.                                               │
 │                                                                            │
 │   Mad Phantom  -  Alot of those VGA title screens where brilliant.         │
 │                                                                            │
 │   Dee          -  Thank you for the time you put in.                       │
 │                                                                            │
 │   Kooper       -  Your warez listing kept us all upto date on what was     │
 │                   released and when. Thank you very much man.              │
 │                                                                            │
 │   oDogg^17     -  See! We can get your name correct every once in          │
 │                   awhile! =)                                               │
 │                                                                            │
 │   AntiDope     -  Wish you would have gotten here sooner!                  │
 │                                                                            │
 │   NRunner      -  Hey this was originally your idea.                       │
 │                                                                            │
 │   T0k          -  You got us started out. You spent alot of time and       │
 │                   effort on this magazine. Even after you left, you kept   │
 │                   those interviews rolling in.                             │
 │                                                                            │
 │   187          -  Offering those early issues when all our bots all        │
 │                   K-Lined :)                                               │
 │                                                                            │
 │   CptPower     -  You coded a shell in a very short time. And keep on      │
 │                   upgrading it. Sure it didn't work to well in             │
 │                   Windows 95 but neither do alot of other DOS programs :)  │
 │                                                                            │
 │   Internal                                                                 │
 │   Flames       -  Excellent ANSI. You would be one of the best in          │
 │                   Eastern Europe.                                          │
 │                                                                            │
 │   Sun          -  Thanks for keeping the FTP site going.                   │
 │                                                                            │
 │   Partizan     -  Thankd for managing the WWW page and the odd bot.        │
 │                                                                            │
 │                                                                            │
 │   And to everybody else who in some way helped us out with what we where   │
 │   doing.                                                                   │
 │                                                                            │
 │                                                                            │
 │   Well folks thats it. We thank you all for reading us and enjoying the    │
 │   work that we put out. We know it may not have been the easiest mag to    │
 │   read English wise but who gives a damn. We brought you the best news     │
 │   on the net that actually delt with something with the scene. Now also    │
 │   before you all go off and just exit this remmember to read the           │
 │   interviews that we do have!                                              │
 │                                                                            │
 │     - QuaziModem Talks about what happened and how he thinks things        │
 │       turned out and why.                                                  │
 │                                                                            │
 │     - Dizzident has a talk with Stone about many things including          │
 │       Stealth, Masque and Motiv8.                                          │
 │                                                                            │
 │     - Find out the truth about Quake from Piston. An Ex-RoR Senior         │
 │       who was still with RoR at the time of the quake release.             │
 │                                                                            │
 │     - etc...                                                               │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Well thats it guys. Again thank you very Much and c-ya sooner then      │
 │    you might think!                                                        │
 │                                                                            │
 │                                                    Entropy                 │
 │                                                    Ipggi                   │
 │                                                    Defacto Staff           │
 │                                                                            │
 │ ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── │
 └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

 ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
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 │ │                                                                        │ │
 │ │               Interviewer(s) : Entropy                                 │ │
 │ │                                                                        │ │
 │ │               Interviewie(s) : QuaziModem                              │ │
 │ │                                                                        │ │
 │ │                      Subject : GODS, RCN Logs, What Really Happened.   │ │
 │ │                                                                        │ │
 │ │             Date Interviewed : June 25th, 1996                         │ │
 │ │                                                                        │ │
 │ ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── │
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 │                                                                            │
 │      Defacto :  Quazi about 2 weeks ago you decided to come back to        │
 │                 the scene after a break of about 1 1/2 Years or so.        │
 │                 Can you please tell me some of your reasons why you        │
 │                 decided to rejoin the scene after such a long time of      │
 │                 more or less just watching over it?                        │
 │                                                                            │
 │   QuaziModem :  I really never had any intention to come back to the       │
 │                 scene... Actually, I was trying to hop group channels      │
 │                 in hopes to "chit chat" with some old friends to see       │
 │                 what's been goin' on the scene lately.  Came across        │
 │                 some ppl, half of 'em I didn't even recognize. :)          │
 │                 Although, my interests in coming back to the scene was     │
 │                 sparked by David&Goliath and Prophet.  They actually       │
 │                 found me :)  Two of the last ppl, I've got to know         │
 │                 before I "quit" the scene...                               │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Defacto :  Did they try and convinve you to start Gods back up or     │
 │                 something else? What sparked the idea to re-instate        │
 │                 gods into the Scene?                                       │
 │                                                                            │
 │   QuaziModem :  Well, D&G was the one that approached me about that.       │
 │                 He, and I believe some others possibly, had already        │
 │                 started getting things rollin' for the revival of GODS.    │
 │                 Everything sounding very exciting :)  Hehe... I wanted     │
 │                 in.  Figured, what the hell, it probably would be a        │
 │                 good chance to figure out what has changed the past        │
 │                 couple of years in the scene.                              │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Defacto :  So God was something that sounded fun to you so you        │
 │                 decided to just do it? Where you serious into the group    │
 │                 or more just something to kill the time and find out       │
 │                 what has changed in a couple of years?                     │
 │                                                                            │
 │   QuaziModem :  Well I WAS serious about it.... but I wasn't about         │
 │                 ready to go 100% into it.  I worked for a living. :)       │
 │                 And depending on how much I'm needed... I was going to     │
 │                 allocate my time acordingly.  I just ran into D&G about    │
 │                 a little less than a week before GODS was gonna make       │
 │                 it's presence in the scene again.  And I didn't have       │
 │                 the opportunity to really get clued in on what's been      │
 │                 going on... the set up of the group... etc.  I was         │
 │                 really in the dark... a ...my attitude was a bit on        │
 │                 the "lighter side". :)  I mean, my head was already        │
 │                 spinning with all the new and old ppl that I was           │
 │                 trying to keep up with and make friends with...! :)        │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Defacto :  Recently RCN published a log file from what looked like    │
 │                 your first meeting log. Now knowing what RCN does to       │
 │                 log files can you tell me exactly (Without going into      │
 │                 everything) what happened in your first meeting? Do you    │
 │                 consider it a succes and a good step in the right          │
 │                 direction so to speak?                                     │
 │                                                                            │
 │   QuaziModem :  Well... first of all, I think it was really lame to        │
 │                 have something like that published.  That should have      │
 │                 never gotten out in the first place. It was a PRIVATE      │
 │                 meeting for GODS members only!  I mean, hell, it'd be      │
 │                 like someone recording a "company" meeting or something    │
 │                 and have it broadcasted on TV or the papers! Totally       │
 │                 unethical! Alot of ppl in the GODS council were pretty     │
 │                 PO'ed about that. As far as the progress of the            │
 │                 meeting... I would hafta say that only 5% of the ppl       │
 │                 in that meeting, I knew before.  The majority I didn't     │
 │                 have a clue who they were and what they did.  I was a      │
 │                 bit of a "zoo"... :)  I was frustratrated a bit            │
 │                 about the progress of the meeting... But I felt I wasn't   │
 │                 in any position to say/do much about it. I didn't          │
 │                 realize how much of a force GODS would've been after       │
 │                 learning (later) who these ppl were and what they did.     │
 │                 If we had just had more time to organize this alot         │
 │                 better.                                                    │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Defacto :  Yet again in another RCN release they displayed yet        │
 │                 another LOG file dealing with Gods. This one showed you    │
 │                 more or less kicking somebody out of the channel and       │
 │                 then a fight erupting so to speak. Now seeing as           │
 │                 this was only part of what was going on can you tell me    │
 │                 what exactly happened that night to clear some things      │
 │                 up?                                                        │
 │                                                                            │
 │   QuaziModem :  Manowar was msging me about stuff in general... then       │
 │                 had told me that he had a problem with someone in GODS     │
 │                 putting him down and saying that he didn't belong in       │
 │                 the group.  He was referring to gaHn. I was fuckin'        │
 │                 around that day... :)  Just popping my head in to          │
 │                 see what was new... So I in the channel I typed...         │
 │                 "hey gaHn, are you being a dumbass??? :)" notice the       │
 │                 ":)" after my sentence... as I was saying.. I was just     │
 │                 screwing around... I guess... and I'll admit to this..     │
 │                 playing with "power"  But my intentions was NOT to fuck    │
 │                 with anyone.. just trying to make sure everyone got        │
 │                 along.  Oh how wrong I was .. :) gahn msged me on the      │
 │                 channel saying...                                          │
 │                 "Quazimodem, why are you asking me that???  What do you    │
 │                 mean "am I being a dumbass"???". See.. this is where       │
 │                 things were fucked up. He was repeating that               │
 │                 statement several times and my script "interprets" that    │
 │                 as a channel flood and it kicked him out. I was going      │
 │                 to msg him in private about that.. but I didn't get        │
 │                 the chance to. Then chaos happened...                      │
 │                 During this time, slain was talking to me.  Slain told     │
 │                 ppl that he was going to quit gods.  And in our chat       │
 │                 together he gave me the reason.  Although, AGAIN, ppl      │
 │                 mistook it the wrong way and I was accused of screwing     │
 │                 over gahn AND Erupt and being the cause for Slain          │
 │                 leaving GODS.  A ridiculous mess. :) Erupt msged me        │
 │                 saying "Quazimodem, I don't give a fuck who you are,       │
 │                 don't fuckin' kick gahn" My reaction to that was           │
 │                  1) I didn't blatently kick him out...                     │
 │                  2) I reacted (ego-trip here) and replied back, to         │
 │                     Erupt saying "and I don't give a fuck who YOU are"     │
 │                     hehe...                                                │
 │                 Like I said, I didn't really have any intentions to        │
 │                 fuck with ppl. I just reacted to something that I felt     │
 │                 I didn't intentionally cause.                              │
 │                                                                            │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Defacto :  Do you feal that by posting the logs in RCN it made        │
 │                 things worse off for Gods and yourself? Or at that         │
 │                 point had Gods already pretty much disbanded?              │
 │                                                                            │
 │   QuaziModem :  The publication of the GODS group meeting in RCN was a     │
 │                 blow to the group no doubt about it.  I dunno what their   │
 │                 deal was but they could have had more respect for          │
 │                 themselves and the scene for posting that. It really       │
 │                 discouraged me to see all that.  Didn't give a good        │
 │                 "image" of GODS to see such "organization" for our         │
 │                 first "group" meeting. It pissed me off to see crap like   │
 │                 that about me published... I felt like I was victimized    │
 │                 a bit :) Seemed to me that RCN was very biased and very    │
 │                 unprofessional anyway.  You can see that in how they       │
 │                 asked their questions. They didn't even bother to ask      │
 │                 for my input in that mess. Anyway, I'd hafta say, after    │
 │                 that day, things were going downhill for GODS.             │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Defacto :  Can you tell us a bit about what is happening now?         │
 │                 Understand that Amnesia has again reformed because of      │
 │                 this. Infact they have even said that they where           │
 │                 planning to split away anyway. But none the less. Can      │
 │                 you tell us a bit about what happened after this?          │
 │                                                                            │
 │   QuaziModem :  Well... personally, I felt GODS was too big.... and        │
 │                 there was no control.  I know I didn't help much.          │
 │                 People were demoted and were unhappy about it... there     │
 │                 obviously was alot of "fighting" going on... so that       │
 │                 didn't help much.  I guess they'd figured that they'd      │
 │                 be better off in Amnesia.... Again... all this was very    │
 │                 vague to me so what I'm telling you now was what *I* was   │
 │                 told.                                                      │
 │                 --> QuaziModm shrugs shoulders....                         │
 │                 go figure..                                                │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Defacto :  Well Quazi after this can you tell me any of your plans    │
 │                 for the future?                                            │
 │                                                                            │
 │   QuaziModem :  Well, I'm definately going to stick around and see         │
 │                 what options I have out there.  And work to see how I      │
 │                 can help some friends a bit.                               │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Defacto :  Well Thank you very much for your time. Is there           │
 │                 anything else you would like to say before we part?        │
 │                                                                            │
 │   QuaziModem :  I just want to give up props to those ppl to whom I may    │
 │                 have offended... I just wish things could have been        │
 │                 different.                                                 │
 │                                                                            │
 │ ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── │
 └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

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 │ │                                                                        │ │
 │ │               Interviewer(s) : Ipggi                                   │ │
 │ │                                                                        │ │
 │ │               Interviewie(s) : Piston                                  │ │
 │ │                                                                        │ │
 │ │                      Subject : The Fake Quake                          │ │
 │ │                                                                        │ │
 │ │             Date Interviewed : June 22nd, 1996                         │ │
 │ │                                                                        │ │
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 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto : Welcome Piston, can you tell the readers what positions       │
 │              and affils you currently hold ?                               │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Piston  : As of right now I am with Mortality & Rapier. I am            │
 │              currently err.. "working" my way into a new games             │
 │              group :) In mortality I supply various things &               │
 │              courier. Same With Rapier                                     │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto : You were not so long ago in RoR, where you not? And           │
 │              once held a fairly high posistion in the group. Can you       │
 │              tell us why you are no longer associated with RoR?            │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Piston  : Well. Basically what happened is a while ago I had too        │
 │              choose between two game groups. I had known tklp for a        │
 │              while then. Althuogh the other gaming group obviosuly         │
 │              had more "respect" in the scene, I decided to go with         │
 │              ROR and see if I could help them out. So tklp gave me a       │
 │              senior staff position. (I had known him long before that)     │
 │              So. obviously ROR's rep was not the best it could have        │
 │              been. So we made a connetion at ID software. (that was        │
 │              why tklp was saying he would have quake before every one      │
 │              else) We were expecting to get quake from them, but the       │
 │              other day some supplier came along claiming he had quake      │
 │              final. So tklp downloded it and tested it out. He found       │
 │              it it had all the levels. BUT it was NOT the final            │
 │              release. So he packaged it up and gave it to a cracker        │
 │              to clean it up, take out every thing that says beta, all      │
 │              the GFX that say beta etc and anything else. Aside from       │
 │              that some other things in the past combined w/it just         │
 │              ticked me off and so I just resigned.                         │
 │                                                                            │
 │              BTW: we still have that connection at ID. And i think he      │
 │              is still taking advantage of it trying to get the *REAL*      │
 │              final.                                                        │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto : So tklp deliberatly faked and duped a big release like        │
 │              Quake. Surely this is an extremily stupid thing to do         │
 │              especially when you are trying to increase the                │
 │              reputation of a group, no to stuff it up totally. So now      │
 │              that you have left, who has the connection to ID,             │
 │              yourself or tklp?                                             │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Piston  : Well, he did not deliberatley fake & dupe it. He had no       │
 │              knowledge about the current beta 3 floating around. As        │
 │              far as the connection to ID. It was my idea on how to get     │
 │              it, I told him how to make it work, but he did all the        │
 │              dirty work, ect.                                              │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto : But he still, i quote "So he packaged it up and gave it       │
 │              to a cracked to clean it up. take out every thing that        │
 │              says beta, all the GFX that say beta. and anything else."     │
 │              then released it as QUAKE *FINAL*.                            │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Piston  : Yes.                                                          │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto : Then he must have knew there where beta's floating around     │
 │              that where the same as his release?                           │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Piston  : No, he had no knowledge of it, he thought the only            │
 │              version out was the SW version. So he figured he could        │
 │              get a way with souping up the "full level" beta.              │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto : Do you think this was right of him ? I mean he still          │
 │              technically knew he was releasing a fake.                     │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Piston  : Well, you have to look at it from 2 different views ...       │
 │              On one. Theres the fact hey, what a lamer, he is              │
 │              releasing a 100% dupe. On the other. Cool! Quake! All 4       │
 │              levels of it available to the public :) So.. in my            │
 │              personal opinion, no I don't think it was right. I think      │
 │              it was lame and I don't see how in the world he thought       │
 │              he could have gotten away with it.                            │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto : Can you tell us anything about this 'new games group' you     │
 │              where hinting to before ?                                     │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Piston  : Ermm.. Well, most people who know the groups I was            │
 │              deciding between before will know, it was obviously not       │
 │              RoR :)                                                        │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Piston  : So. It had to be the other one.                               │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto : Do you have any grudges against tklp or RoR ?                 │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Piston  : No. not really, I don't hold grudges. Unless its something    │
 │              MAJOR that personally effected me.                            │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto : Any final words or greets before we go ?                      │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Piston  : Ermm... just one ... Look at it this way, if RoR cleaned      │
 │              up its act, and had the same rep as a prestigious group       │
 │              like .. razor, then they could probly go some where           │
 │              because they do have some decent suppliers, and a nice        │
 │              cracking team. Unfortunatley , their suppliers have not       │
 │              been too active lateley :)                                    │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto : Ok thanks for your time and the best of luck.                 │
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 │    Piston  : NP. Thanks.                                                   │
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 │ │               Interviewer(s) : Dizzident                               │ │
 │ │                                                                        │ │
 │ │               Interviewie(s) : Stone                                   │ │
 │ │                                                                        │ │
 │ │                      Subject : Stealth, Masque, and Motiv8.            │ │
 │ │                                                                        │ │
 │ │             Date Interviewed : June 18th, 1996                         │ │
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 │    Defacto :  Can you tell our readers what groups you are in ?            │
 │                                                                            │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Stone :  I'm a courier for Stealth and I co-founded  Masque with      │
 │               Winterhawk, tpct and spindoc. The later two partially        │
 │               left the scene, so I run masque with winterhawk now...       │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto :  How is Masque doing lately ?                                 │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Stone :  Masque is always doing ups and downs, depending on when      │
 │               we have the time to put in the hours it takes. During        │
 │               the past week we had 5 releases so right now pretty          │
 │               good.. :)                                                    │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto :  Great, love to hear that.. So you say that MSQ is a fun      │
 │               based group, when you all have the time, you release ?       │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Stone :  Very true. MSQ is based purely on friendship, releasing      │
 │               is like a side bonus..                                       │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto :  Well.. with what motivation you started masque ? I mean,     │
 │               you where tired of the way motiv8 was lead by Mason, so      │
 │               you and winterhawk wanted to start a Courier/Release         │
 │               group yourself ?                                             │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Stone :  Well.. we we're not in agreement with mason on how to        │
 │               run Motiv8. So me and Winterhawk decieded that it would      │
 │               be better for Motiv8 and us if we went our seperate          │
 │               ways. We picked up spindoc and tpct and together the         │
 │               four of us we founded masque as a courier and release        │
 │               group. We stopped couriering pretty fast though.             │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto :  Why ? There are alot of great couriers in Msq.               │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Stone :  We wanted to focus on releasing, and the many excellent      │
 │               couriers we were/are was tied up in a lot of different       │
 │               courier groups. Risc, malice, dgt, master, tct. You name     │
 │               a courier group that has been large with in the last         │
 │               year, chances are that atleast one of their members has      │
 │               been masque too..                                            │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto :  Well. I am alot on #masque, and when i am, i always          │
 │               see the same ppl, it seems like one big family, i like       │
 │               that. What kinda qualities must one have to apply for        │
 │               masque ?                                                     │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Stone :  We are a big happy family :).. And the single most           │
 │               important quality we check before accepting an apply         │
 │               to our group is weather the applying person fits into        │
 │               our family. Secondary is the usual criteria of               │
 │               courier/supply/crack/whatever capabillity.                   │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto :  Well, you are along time involved in the so called           │
 │               scene, what you think has changed alot in the time you       │
 │               are in it ?                                                  │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Stone :  Well.. most things have changed, the speed, from mail        │
 │               to 300 bps to isdn and now internet. The size - there        │
 │               are *MANY* ppl. in the scene nowadays. The releases          │
 │               them selves, from a few releases per disk up to 100          │
 │               disks. One thing that remains - unfortunately - is           │
 │               oversized egos. I guess they are the one thing about         │
 │               the scene that will never change!                            │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto :  I agree yes, another thing i see, is that the people         │
 │               arent loyal anymore, i really hate that, leave a group       │
 │               that made you big, i see it alot, what you think about       │
 │               it ?                                                         │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Stone :  Well.. i guess you really hate my manners then... I left     │
 │               the group that made me somebody (giving me access to         │
 │               sites so i had somewhere to start). I always viewed          │
 │               it like this: groups are made of ppl. i'm loyal to ppl.      │
 │               not to whatever name they deciede to gather under.           │
 │               But you're right loyalty is in short stock, but it has       │
 │               always been, the net and the higher pace here made it        │
 │               worse though.                                                │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto :  Nah, you left M8, cause you didnt agree with mason           │
 │               policy's.. Thats a good reason i think..But another          │
 │               thing, Stealth is supposed to be a real fine group,          │
 │               what you think so far ?                                      │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Stone :  Stealth is a real fine group, real friendly ppl. making      │
 │               it a pleasant group to be in. And we're really doing         │
 │               fine.. I think we got plenty of potential for doing even     │
 │               better than we already are, and i'm sure we'll make use      │
 │               of it!                                                       │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto :  Glad to hear that.. What competition will stealth have       │
 │               now, since so many groups are doing real bad ?               │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Stone :  Well.. there is plenty of competition from other             │
 │               couriers, gods, Risc,everlast has some rather good           │
 │               crews.. Many smaller groups will also try to compete         │
 │               as always..                                                  │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto :  Dont you think there are way to many courier groups ? It     │
 │               looks like that each week a new courier group is             │
 │               founded..                                                    │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Stone :  Well.. yes and no.. I don't see the great number of          │
 │               courier groups as a problem most of them just hang           │
 │               around minding their own business. However the rate          │
 │               wich old groups dies and new groups form is alarming it      │
 │               makes the scene an even more unstable environment that       │
 │               it already is. You learn what the old groups stand for,      │
 │               but you never get a clear picture of the new groups -        │
 │               they simply die to fast!                                     │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto :  I agree.. Thats why I remain in the groups that i am in,     │
 │               I am not saying that it is the best to do.. but hell..       │
 │               Now something about you, what do you do in Masque ?          │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Stone :  I do a little of everything in masque, courier a little,     │
 │               I supply, I crack and spend sometime on management..         │
 │               Only thing i don't do is channel and site management         │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto :  What do you think about the quality of some of the releases  │
 │               spread by various groups ?                                   │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Stone :  It has never been lower.. font packages and clip art is      │
 │               getting released and spread, templates to winword,           │
 │               ancient shit, chinese and other foreign stuff (I don't       │
 │               mind releasing foreign stuff, but why do we have to          │
 │               courier german stuff in e.g. canada?). Unfortunately         │
 │               there is not much to do about it, except nuke the crap on    │
 │               the sites. Infact it's gone way overboard when groups        │
 │               that repeatedly released the worst kinda crap get's a        │
 │               fairly respected courier group as official couriers.         │
 │               Damnit ppl. wake up and thing about what you're              │
 │               releasing!!! Not to mention thing about what you're          │
 │               couriering...                                                │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto :  I know what you mean, I had 3 viruses in 1 zip file..        │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Stone :  Ouch.. I found a board-add that contains virii..             │
 │               image every file that goes thru that board is                │
 │               automatically infected. Virii is a major problem - it        │
 │               takes only a few minutes to mod a virii so that no           │
 │               virusscanner will find it. And only a few hours to make      │
 │               one from rock-bottom. Unfortunately we cannot do much        │
 │               about it - i guess most the virii you find in releases       │
 │               are not put there with a malicious intent, but thru          │
 │               the misfortune of the packer.                                │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto :  I dont know alot of packaging a file, but cant they do       │
 │               it, and then check the file for any infected files ?         │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Stone :  Well that is of course an option - and some do. But it's     │
 │               not *THE* solution to the virii problem. Many of the         │
 │               virii out there are unknown to scanners, so are hiding       │
 │               in packaged .exe's and scanning takes times. The last        │
 │               part is a major obstacle since most ppl. in the scene are    │
 │               lazy :>                                                      │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto :  I think the scene is more rushed now also.. I mean, it       │
 │               seems sometimes a release group even can't take his time     │
 │               to release a program, mostly it results in a update the      │
 │               next day.. Like Grand Prix 2.. still havent heard anyone     │
 │               that actualy get the game to work, i think that is very      │
 │               bad, especialy when it is released by a 'new' group..        │
 │               Dont you agree ?                                             │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Stone :  It's definately more rushed! Ppl. hurry to release shit      │
 │               and never stops to test it. Especially with cd-rips          │
 │               this results in major fuckups. It's better not to release    │
 │               that to make a fuckup. Of coz it's not always easy to get    │
 │               a rip to work 100% a file might be missing half way thru     │
 │               the game, you might remove something that will make it       │
 │               unable to run on certain graphics adaptors and so on.        │
 │               Problems that will not show up in a test. All too often      │
 │               it happens that a game or a util is not tested at all.       │
 │               But I don't think it's worse when a new group fucks up.      │
 │               Actually i think it's worse when a established group         │
 │               that is famous for it's quality fuckups. All we got as       │
 │               a guide when we choose to download is the groups             │
 │               previous history of releases, therefore we're likely         │
 │               to choose old established groups releases to download        │
 │               because the are usually more dependable that a small         │
 │               bunch of lamers hitting the jackpot with a game or util.     │
 │               So when they fuck up it does more damage then when           │
 │               LamersInc. fucks up.                                         │
 │                                                                            │
 │    Defacto :  Well, we can talk about this for many more hours.. I like    │
 │               to thank you for this interview, is there anything you       │
 │               would like to say, or tell our readers ?                     │
 │                                                                            │
 │      Stone :  Remember to have fun - fun is the way of the scene!          │
 │                                                                            │
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 │                            Software Previews                               │
 │                                                                            │
 │                 X-COM: Apocalypse . Microprose . Late 1996                 │
 │                                                                            │
 │       Well i've been waiting for this one for a long time now but          │
 │       yet it has been delayed again. The two prequals where some of        │
 │       my all time favorate games and this 3rd installment in the           │
 │       series should be brilliant. The player now can select weather        │
 │       you want the traditional turn base movement or for you brainless     │
 │       trigger-happy arcade freaks there is a Syndicate like real-time      │
 │       mode. Your mission like the ones before is to save humankind         │
 │       from the lastest alien threat. Weather this will be the final        │
 │       installment in the series is yet to be seen, but if previous         │
 │       X-COM *cough* sales are anything to go by this wont be the last.     │
 │                                                                            │
 │                                                                            │
 │          X-Wing vs TIE Fighter . LucasArts . Late 1996/Early 1997          │
 │                                                                            │
 │       This is the first I have heard of this one but it was previewed      │
 │       at the E3 LA expo last month. It seems LucasArts will be cashing     │
 │       in on the StarWars RE-Releases coming in in early 1997 (watch        │
 │       Independance Day for a trailer). Well finally we get the             │
 │       opertunity to fight for either the Rebels or the Empire. You can     │
 │       fly any ship from a large range of starfighters from both sides.     │
 │       The most important improvement I feel though is now at long last     │
 │       Multiplayer mode is now supported. Upto 8 people networked can       │
 │       have head to head battles or all fly on the same squadron.           │
 │       But don't dispair because you people with no friends can still       │
 │       have some fun. Single-player mode offers a few Rebel and Empire      │
 │       missions that can also be used for the multiplayer games. This       │
 │       should be the ultimate StarWars yet. Now all we need is an           │
 │       official Virtual Real. Star Wars :)                                  │
 │                                                                            │
 │                                                                            │
 │           Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2 . Lucas Arts . Early 1997             │
 │                                                                            │
 │       Well another Star Wars release from the famous LucasArts crew.       │
 │       This time it's Doom/Quake/Duke (whatever) crossed with Star          │
 │       Wars. Alot of people where not too happy with the original,          │
 │       some didn't like the fact there where no mutliplayer support,        │
 │       others wanted lightsabers (you freaks) and others didn't like        │
 │       how you couldn't "use the force" (you freakier freaks). Well         │
 │       your preys have been answered. Jedi Knight supports                  │
 │       multiplayer mode, lets you embrace the force and yes you can         │
 │       battle the empire with your glow stick. Infact LucasArts are         │
 │       claiming you can do everything Luke Skywalker did in the movies.     │
 │       Star Wars meets Quake ? I hope not. Star Wars meets Duke 3D ?        │
 │       Now that would be cool.                                              │
 │                                                                            │
 │                                                                            │
 │                      QAD . Philips Media . Late 1996                       │
 │                                                                            │
 │       QAD or Quintessential Art of Destruction, it's complete title        │
 │       is 1996 (or 1997 if it's delayed) version of Defender. That          │
 │       once very popular arcade shoot-em'up that only old farts will        │
 │       remember :) Well anyway this uses a real-time 3D fractual            │
 │       engine to creat a stunning and brilliant virtual world.              │
 │       QAD features 3D sprites, power-ups, fuel, booby-traps and            │
 │       plenty of aliens .. How very 16bit consoled ?? Well this could       │
 │       become something special .. then again maybe not.                    │
 │                                                                            │
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 │           The Economics of Developing & Manufacturing Software             │
 │                                                                            │
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 │                             By Seven                                       │
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 │ Ahh yes, the age old pirating question.  Why do we pirate?                 │
 │ Is it because of greedy corporations raising up prices to such a           │
 │ phenomenal level that we cannot afford it or just for the fun of it?       │
 │                                                                            │
 │ Many people use the former as an excuse to pirate.  Hell, if you           │
 │ think about it, the cost of labor and manufacturing the final product is   │
 │ quite cheap when it comes to software.  It may only cost $5 in parts       │
 │ and labor to create a CD-ROM software title, so why the bloated price-tag? │
 │                                                                            │
 │ Well you have to look at the economics of developing the software.         │
 │ Take Windows Network (NT) for example.  If you were to factor in research  │
 │ costs, the production of the first copy of Windows NT might cost around    │
 │ $100 million dollars, while each copy made after that is essentially free. │
 │                                                                            │
 │ Old-fashioned economics state that companies ONLY charge for a             │
 │ product exactly what it costed to manufacture the last unit.  But rather   │
 │ with modern technology, research and such costs must be taken into         │
 │ consideration in order for that company to turn a profit.                  │
 │                                                                            │
 │ If Microsoft sold each copy of Windows NT for the exact price it           │
 │ cost to manufacture the last unit, the company would turn no profit in     │
 │ any way, shape or form.  Such industries as software, which have huge      │
 │ research budjets and low production costs must charge more for their goods │
 │ than it cost to produce the last unit.                                     │
 │                                                                            │
 │ As economist Paul Romer put it, "If you forced anyone in the world         │
 │ of ideas (ie: software) to sell their product at the cost of producing the │
 │ last unit, they'd go bankrupt."                                            │
 │                                                                            │
 │ As we Americans (assuming that most of Defactos readers ARE                │
 │ American, or living in a modern 1st world country) live in capitalist      │
 │ society's, such 'monopolies' as Microsoft are needed for the economy due   │
 │ to such large research costs.  A small mom-and-pop business would not have │
 │ the funding for market entry, thus monopolies are needed.                  │
 │                                                                            │
 │ So the next time you argue about the ethics of pirating software,          │
 │ remember that the costs are only set in relation to the researching funds, │
 │ and that you do this for the FUN of it.  Remember: we are all criminals,   │
 │ despite what you may think or say, none of us are "Robin Hood's" out to    │
 │ steal from the rich and give to the poor.                                  │
 │                                                                            │
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