Anti-Dirivative for Fast Action Trading Elite (FATE) by Defacto (df)
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1996 June 6
Interview with Anti-Derivative the then leader of FATE.
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- Anti-Derivative, Entropy, Trite, writer credits
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│ │ Interviewer(s) : Entropy & Trite │ │
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│ │ Interviewie(s) : Anti-Dirivative │ │
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│ │ Subject : Fate │ │
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│ │ Date Interviewed : June 6th, 1996 │ │
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│ Defacto : Recently Fate Decided to change the name of the well │
│ known and EXTREMLY popular #Fatefiles to something new │
│ and something that did not even hint Fate in the name. │
│ Can you tell us some of the reasons behind this change? │
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│ Anti-D : There are 2 reasons: │
│ 1) fATE needed to disassociate itself with it's humongus │
│ offer channel's name. We had everyone employed at │
│ the SPA in the channel just laughing it up and │
│ kicking our couriers. Sending emails to their root's │
│ and so on. Lots of attention we didn't need. │
│ 2) It was fun, it was neat, but it was time we released │
│ it from our control. We were spending way too much │
│ time constantly trying to regain control of #fatefiles │
│ from lame "irc takeover groups" that made #ff their │
│ #1 target. A sort of breaking into fort knox on irc. │
│ So it is now run by another group, we still have some │
│ policy decisions and bot access though. It's a huge │
│ stress release │
│ │
│ Defacto : People have rumored and gossiped about the different │
│ reasons that Fate has received such a bad name. The │
│ main reason that people associate this with is Fatefiles │
│ and Fates dedication to IRC couriering. Something that a │
│ lot of people think is a waste of time. How do you │
│ comment on that? │
│ │
│ Anti-D : hmm, I would hardly say we have a "dedication" to irc │
│ couriering. We've always once on the net had our sites │
│ at the core. Infact we did little if any irc courier at │
│ first. If of our couriers curry on irc, it was by their │
│ own choice. We don't really care either way about it as │
│ long as it doesn't interfere with their ftp assignments. │
│ As for our bad name, people just do it because they get │
│ into a habit. There are a lot of elitists in the scene. │
│ I don't know why people rag on us, and I don't really │
│ care. I, nor does the rest of my crew need to hear from │
│ anyone that our group sucks. We are very happy, and we │
│ know we are doing great and getting better. │
│ │
│ Defacto : So your saying #ff wasn't even a necessity of fate │
│ couriers, it was something that fate couriers did on │
│ their own ambition? │
│ │
│ Anti-D : Well, not exactly. #ff was started and operated by us, │
│ officially, from the council, not by the couriers, but it │
│ was not part of our jobs list. It was sort of a side thing │
│ and since we were the first to do it, it became huge. │
│ Eventually it manifested into a monster, as you know if │
│ you join the chan :) │
│ │
│ Defacto : Recently (2-3) months or so ago I guess.. Mikeysoft │
│ Joined Fate as a Senior. Can you tell us about the │
│ groups decision to invite him in and what exactly │
│ happened in the SHORT period of time he was with the │
│ group. │
│ │
│ Anti-D : We invited him in because he was qualified and had │
│ specifically lended us a hand in a very trying time for │
│ the group. Mikey is, no doubt, incredibly smart and │
│ seasoned for the scene, and in business in general. │
│ Mikey actually did not do a whole lot. He was coined │
│ Public Relations Manager, but with his various IRC │
│ adventures and millions of other jobs he was doing, he │
│ didn't have much time for fATE, which left him just │
│ hanging out a lot, but that was ok. He was there when we │
│ needed him, and when he came he always brought a lot to │
│ the table. │
│ │
│ Defacto : So why was he allowed membership in fate if he didn't do │
│ a lot? Was it because fate was insuring more channel │
│ security with him being an irc operator? │
│ │
│ Anti-D : Not at all. Mikey had always helped us with #ff a good bit │
│ before he was in the group, and he was always willing to │
│ help. His allowance into the group was not relevant to │
│ his o-lines. Infact he has saved #ff2 (I'll call it :) ) │
│ a couple times since out of fATE. He was allowed │
│ membership because of experience, contacts, maturity, │
│ wit, and common sense. Things found very rare on the net │
│ and in the scene in general. I leap at the chance to │
│ find a senior member with those qualities. Besides, like │
│ I said, Mikey was there when needed for the most part, we │
│ just sorta let it slide. Mikey was definitely a unique │
│ situation though. I don't want to give the impression │
│ that our seniors are allowed to slack because it is quite │
│ the opposite. │
│ │
│ Defacto : Fate is such a large group but really has not made a name │
│ for Itself on some of the bigger sites such as LA, BBX, │
│ CRC and some others. Is Fate not trying to become the │
│ best or are you as some people say "A Courierngr group │
│ for the masses"? │
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│ Anti-D : Neither. I don't define the best by other peoples sites. │
│ We just started getting some presence on LA, BBX and CRC, │
│ btw- BBX, started as a fATE site and well, that's a whole │
│ other story. Anyway our sites are packed and fast. Our │
│ main site is comparable to CRC or LA. Maybe we may miss │
│ a release by 5-20 mins, what group doesn't. All groups │
│ get some things faster as you know, mostly dependent on │
│ their "official releasers". We are the best group for │
│ everyone in our group and always will be. fATE is a tight │
│ crowd and we've come a long long way, we haven't lived so │
│ long and watched others come and go by luck, without │
│ getting too "disneyish" there is a bit of a magic to fATE, │
│ a difference between it and other groups in the scene. │
│ That's what we pride ourselves on more then presence on │
│ LA. │
│ │
│ Defacto : Fate, to me, does not seem to be wanting to improve its │
│ image. A groups moral presence in itself, I agree, is a │
│ good thing to have higher than that of what other people │
│ think of you. But I have noticed almost anytime somebody │
│ from Fate enters a channel and starts talking about Fate │
│ they are blasted almost immediately for even mentioning │
│ the name. This is something to me that would atleast start │
│ to nerve me a bit. Do you feel that this is something that │
│ maybe the Seniors in fate should be working on improving │
│ (By getting better on LA, BBX, etc.) to improve your │
│ image to help your couriers out there in irc/Judgment. │
│ If not for their respect that they deserve? │
│ │
│ Anti-D : Well, not exactly, if you've been in the scene, you know │
│ that the majority of ppl in it are, well, childish. │
│ Anybody who says that fATE is lame is saying because │
│ they don't know us, because I've been in a lot of groups: │
│ TDU-JAM, RiSC for a short while, DoD, quite a few years. │
│ I know what lame is, and know what not if you call fATE │
│ lame, then you, yourself are a liar, because you don't │
│ know anything about fATE and I know this, and the seniors │
│ know this, but yes, it is very disheartening when a new │
│ courier might have to deal with this. It would be nice to │
│ be on more sites of the "big l33t sites", but we are just │
│ concerned about it fATE is on a different level (not │
│ higher or lower) but a different idea I assure you. │
│ Anyone on a fATE site has all the warez damn near as fast │
│ as LA or CRC or whatever. That's what matters. │
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│ Defacto : Some other groups in the past have changed their name as │
│ a move to "start with a clean slate," has fate considered │
│ this to escape its reputation? │
│ │
│ Anti-D : Yes; And we have unanimously decide not to. We don't need │
│ to cower behind a new name. I have never been more proud │
│ in my life period, and I know many of the council / │
│ seniors / members feel the same. I wouldn't change the │
│ name if there was guarantee to be #1 by a landslide. │
│ Groups that are willing to change their name just to be │
│ popular with the other kids on the playground are the │
│ same groups that come and go. fATE/RiSC remain. │
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│ Defacto : Okay well thank you for your time. Is there anything else │
│ you would like to say before we end? │
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│ Anti-D : I see a LOT of new groups talk about in there nfo's, │
│ "If you want maturity and a solid professional group │
│ with no fooling around come to <insert group here>" all │
│ the time, and they talk about how they are so experienced │
│ and blah blah, and you find out it's a hyper 12 year old │
│ running the show screwing up the whole ordeal now, │
│ without sounds like a elitist, because I despise them. │
│ Their ripping fATE off. We made professional, we made │
│ like a business, we screened for age and only brought │
│ in mature members. fATE is the group that has the unique │
│ qualities of maturity, loyalty, experience, good │
│ infrastructure, and vision for the future not to say that │
│ other groups do not, but don't just copy our damn nfo │
│ speeches and lie. I don't expect many to understand what │
│ I'm saying it's a personal pet peeve and it just pisses │
│ me off. so there. blah. :) │
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