An incomplete interview with The Renegade Chemist for Razor 1911 (RZR) by Defacto2 (DF2)
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│Spotlight on The Renegade Chemist!│
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│ Welcome to a new Section that you can only find in Defacto! │
│ throughout out next issues we will be Spotlighting a member │
│ of the scene! Somebody who in some way or the other has made │
│ a contribution to this world that we live in! If you think │
│ that you know of somebody who should have the 'Spotlight' on them │
│ then please email [email protected] or talk to a Defacto member │
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│ Defacto: Chemist can you give me your full Name and a little │
│ Information on who you are and what you are doing right now? │
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│ Chemist: The Renegade Chemist, I am a member of Prestige, sort of an │
│ organizer, part time supplier and really bad, bad cracker. │
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│ Defacto: Chemist can you tell us a little about how you first got │
│ introduced into the scene and what got you started with Warez? │
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│ Chemist: Okay. Well when I started calling out, it was on a friend's │
│ borrowed 1200 baud modem. I was calling out on my true-blue │
│ IBM 8086 PC with 568k and a pair of full-height 360k drives. │
│ The case I think must have been made of titanium, anyway that │
│ case would certainly survive a nuclear blast. The first boards │
│ we called were the public domain porno boards, and when I saw │
│ that I was like in wanker heaven. You must remember, I was │
│ like 12 years old, and being able to snag pics of naked │
│ chicks in compromising positions meant a lot to me - I would │
│ no longer have to rifle my Dad's drawers and find his dirty │
│ mags. After a while that got boring, I discovered a shitty │
│ warez board and the rest was history .. For my birthday one │
│ year I got a 2400 baud modem of my very own, and from there │
│ I continued to trade on all the local WWIV boards. WWIV │
│ was the popular software then, and Telegard was pretty popular │
│ also. I remember the big board in 214 (Dallas area) at the time │
│ was DUNE, Freddy Krueger's board. I was on his board but not │
│ for very long. Even when I was totally lame, I had a bad │
│ habit of telling people exactly what I thought, and Sysops │
│ don't like it when you tell them they're wrong a lot, and │
│ when you ask a lot of stupid questions. Then there was the fact │
│ that DUNE was like the port of entry for all the wares into │
│ Dallas, so I was never able to upload there, since I was just │
│ a local lamer. Even though I had GREAT uploads on all the │
│ local boards, just by shuttling stuff back and forth between │
│ all of them, I still couldn't get onto DUNE. Back then all the │
│ boards were 2400 baud. 9600 HST had just started, v.32 was │
│ around shortly after that but HST was still faster. HST's were │
│ really expensive, so I couldn't get one. I was just a kid. │
│ Finally after months of trading on the local boards, I found a │
│ local board that ran HST, had a few LD callers, and would let │
│ me on. That was the first "real" board that I was on for an │
│ extended period of time. The board was called Oblivion, the │
│ Sysop named Agent Orange, and it ran a forum-hacked software │
│ called Utopia. That was one of the first forum boards that I │
│ called. Certainly there were other forum hacks at that time, │
│ the most popular of which was Emulex/2, at least for a while. │
│ Anyway, I digress. After a while the 214 scene seemed to get │
│ better, but I still couldn't get on DUNE. So I started calling │
│ LD with my 2400 baud modem, and was able to slowly pull files │
│ in. Back in those days it was SOO easy to get codes .. I │
│ remember using 950-1044,1033,1022 and a bunch of other codes │
│ to get the wares into my AC. But even though I was calling │
│ LD, DUNE was always faster and I still couldn't get on .. │
│ Eventually I got onto DUNE, but by then I was so enmeshed in │
│ the LD scene that it didn't matter. I got involved in several │
│ small groups, the most successful of those being ICE (a really │
│ lame INC rip off), but never accomplished a whole lot until a │
│ little later. Anyway .. when I turned 16 I got a car and didn't │
│ do shit in the scene for a long time. After I totalled my car, │
│ I had a lot more free time and I started to get back into it. │
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│ This is about the time when I started to get involved with │
│ Razor 1911. When I was in junior high, I knew a guy named │
│ Brian. Brian was a friend of a friend and we didn't get along │
│ all that much, I was real lame and remember thinking he was │
│ super 'leet because he was a big name in an Amiga group, │
│ Razor 1911. Anyway, Brian moved to Virginia and I thought that │
│ was the last I'd hear of him. I went about my business in │
│ 214, running my 2400 baud LSD board, The Crime Lab, getting │
│ all the files really fast from my friends who ran boards │
│ with HST's and Duals, and using my local courier group LEECH │
│ (locals exchanging everything caught from HST's) to control 214's │
│ 2400 baud boards. There were a lot of them back then. │
│ INC had the city in a stranglehold, they were dominating and │
│ Cool Hand decided to keep the city dry of wares. Back then there │
│ was no Internet, and all the boards in 214 relied on the big │
│ INC boards (Midnite Oil I, II and III) to bring in the wares, │
│ so if Cool Hand wanted 214 dry, it stayed that way. │
│ Only a few of my friends had the balls to let me leech from │
│ them at night and spread the wares across the city with my │
│ courier group, LEECH. Eventually LEECH even had suppliers, we │
│ formed a group called CWF (Consolidated Wares Force) and put │
│ out some utils and games and stuff. Well, one day I was at a │
│ friend's house, copying some new stuff and I saw a release from │
│ none other than Razor 1911. I was immediately stunned and │
│ surprised, and I checked out the nfo file, and discovered that │
│ this was indeed the same Razor 1911 as my friend Brian had been │
│ in before. In fact, Brian was still in it .. in case you │
│ haven't figured it out yet, Brian was Zodact Stratux, the │
│ leader of Razor 1911 in the US. Later he dropped the │
│ Stratux, but anyway, it was Zodact. Back then you could find │
│ phone numbers to boards in NFO files, and I called one of │
│ their HQ's, Apocalypse, and left a message with my phone │
│ number for Brian. Brian called me, we talked, he kind of made │
│ fun of me and that was the end of that. But I was persistent.. │
│ I hooked up Razor with some of my friends so that they could │
│ help him release, and Razor put out a few games from │
│ a friend that worked at babbage's. But then out of the blue, │
│ Razor 1911 shut down and some of the members joined INC. │
│ They did it because Razor had gotten really big, and there were │
│ a lot of people who claimed to be part of Razor, and in name │
│ WERE part of Razor, but guys that didn't do shit but took │
│ credit were ruining it for Zodact and the rest. I got ahold │
│ of Brian and begged him to reconsider, and after a couple of │
│ weeks the Razor crew left INC and that was when I became a │
│ member. I had a lot of time on my hands and I was really │
│ motivated. Zodact told me the ropes, I bought game magazines, │
│ checked companies, did everything I could think of to find │
│ out when games were coming out. We still got beat consistently │
│ by USA/Fairlight and INC, but now I knew what they were going │
│ to release when they put it out. Zodact had an account at │
│ the fast software distributor at the time and ordered stuff │
│ from there, but USA went one better - they arranged to have │
│ people PICK UP at the distributor, so we weren't fast enough │
│ most of the time, and even when we were, we could be certain │
│ that USA, INC, THG and anyone else would have the game at │
│ the same time as us. │
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│ So it was a bitch. We lost on a lot of stuff, and we │
│ duped on a lot of stuff, unknowingly, but a dupe's a dupe. │
│ Razor's reputation started to sink, because we just couldn't get │
│ enough games to compete, and a lot of the games we did get were │
│ released by someone else first. To make matters worse, the │
│ only money we had was the money we spent ourselves, and from a │
│ few small dist sites. And on top of all that, Zodact was │
│ losing interest in the scene, but that was probably a good │
│ thing as it forced me to take more control of the group, and │
│ to see how shit would be run. Anyway, in Jan/Feb of 1992, │
│ the USA/Fairlight bust came (The NotSoHumbleBabe and │
│ The Grim Reaper got busted for carding) and the scene like │
│ totally shut down for a while. I still have a pretty │
│ funny "TRC retires" letter from that time, actually. │
│ I swore that I would not be involved in the scene anymore, │
│ and it probably would have been better had I not gotten │
│ involved - god knows the scene is a distraction from hell. │
│ But I had just gotten a brand new 14.4k USR Dual for Christmas │
│ via the Sysop deal, and I didn't want it to go to waste.. │
│ I knew that Star Trek : 25th Anniversary would be coming out │
│ soon from Interplay, and I knew that I'd be able to get it, so │
│ I did. I decided that would be the only game I'd ever get for │
│ Razor. But once I got it, and won on it (even though I later │
│ found out that uSA had released it also, and possibly even beat │
│ me to it) I was hooked .. I started to keep better track of │
│ the games coming out, and with Zodact gradually falling out of │
│ it I found people who could work with me in the group. │
│ Guys like The Witch King, who lived on the east coast, had │
│ tax id's with which I could set up distributor accounts, and │
│ had a credit card he'd give me so that I could call companies │
│ and order stuff to him .. People like The Hawk and Butcher, │
│ who helped the group immeasurably.. Anyway after that one │
│ release, I was hooked and the group started to grow. │
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│ We were in close competition with INC for a long, long │
│ time .. then towards the end of may '92 INC pretty much went │
│ belly up and our main competitor emerged as FLT PC, headed │
│ by The Grim Reaper. Grimmy came back from being busted with │
│ The NotSoHumbleBabe's much-vaunted supply list, and really │
│ put out a LOT of shit while I was in Germany for 6 weeks. │
│ Some of my favorite releases from back then included Links │
│ 386 Pro, Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe : P-160 Expansion, │
│ and a few others. All of them had significance for me .. │
│ Luftwaffe was the first time my group beat INC in a race, │
│ and Links 386 was the biggest game I had put out up until then .. │
│ Anyway late '92 I found Randall Flagg. He was cracking for an │
│ Italian group, Dead Memory, and when I saw him do a crack for a │
│ LucasArts game I knew I had to have him. By now I had kind of │
│ figured out how to run a group, and formed my initial │
│ philosophy .. Cracking is most important, respectable boards │
│ are 2nd in importance, and supply is 3rd most important. │
│ Razor 1911 thrived for a long time under my leadership, but │
│ it was always because of our core .. we had the strongest, │
│ most dominant cracking core out of ANY group for at least 2 │
│ straight years. And for a lot of that time we had incredible │
│ spreading, headed by guys like Razor Blade, Hoppermania │
│ (before he turned into a cardwhore), and DEViL .. │
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│ I moved to Austin in late '92, and from '92-'94 we totally │
│ rocked. During this time members like Marauder, Excessive Knight, │
│ Butcher, and others made their mark on the group. In fact most │
│ of those guys joined in late '92 / early '93 and were in for │
│ the duration. Then in '93 sometime, an upstart courier with a │
│ bad attitude named Lord Thinker quit the group and started │
│ PE along with some older guys, like The Hawk. They were tough │
│ for a while because they were picking up at the same distributor │
│ where USA had picked up before, and I still wasn't able to get │
│ a reliable pickup contact out there. '93 was probably the most │
│ fun I had in Razor, that was when we warred with groups like PE, │
│ Pentagram, TDT, and others. It was a good time. │
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│ In '94 the conflict was mostly between us and PTG, then I │
│ lost my phone line, and in my absence the Legend split occurred, │
│ where a bunch of Razor members, headed by Butcher and Westbam, │
│ formed a new group with former TRSI (and current Prestige) │
│ members Tazman, Troops, Troll and others. When I came back to │
│ the scene in August of '94, I got in touch with what was left of │
│ the group (which wasn't much), Lord Thinker and I became friends, │
│ and Razor was re-born with Zeus leading the way as the king of │
│ supply. │
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│ Defacto: Chemist, can you tell us some of your SPEFIC reasons for │
│ deciding to Leave Razor in 1995? │
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│ Chemist: I didn't leave Razor until 1996, and depending on who you │
│ talked to I may even have been kicked out. Ultimately, it │
│ doesn't really matter because if I hadn't quit I would have │
│ been kicked out. In October of '95, I realized that Razor was │
│ pretty close to its peak (which we hit in November of '95). │
│ The floppy scene was dying out, I would be working full time and │
│ going to school full time starting in Spring, Zeus would be in │
│ school in Spring, Lord Thinker in school in Spring, you get the │
│ picture. Zeus, Lord Thinker, myself, Marauder, and │
│ Randall Flagg agreed that the best thing to do would be to │
│ shut the group down at the end of January '95. Anyway, the 5 of │
│ us agreed that since we were in charge of the situation, we'd │
│ shut her down at the beginning of '95. Our WHQ of old, Mirage, │
│ had already gone down, and there weren't too many of us │
│ old-timers left. Zeus and I were good friends even then, │
│ but the fun would only last so long with the companies going CD │
│ only (at that time we didn't foresee the advent of the CD scene │
│ as it is today) .. Anyway, one day I saw a few releases from │
│ Nexus, The GEcko's old group. NXS wasn't doing a whole lot, │
│ and I figured the titles that GEcko could get now and then │
│ would add to the pile for us, and by themselves wouldn't do │
│ much for NXS so I asked him to join. We chatted on the │
│ Razor WHQ, TAG, for 5 minutes and then he offered to join, │
│ bringing pay sites and a UK supplier, Hot Tuna, with him, as │
│ well as a great cracker named Beowulf. I said great, but │
│ that I didn't want SPeed Racer in the group, as I thought he │
│ was just GEcko's store pickup lackey, and even then I'd seen │
│ him fuck up almost every release that came his way. Quite │
│ honestly, I thought that TSR was a total idiot, and I didn't │
│ want dead weight in the group. But GEcko insisted, so I said │
│ cool, he can come in. When GEcko joined, he agreed that the │
│ group would be shut down in early '95, as he would not have │
│ time for it anymore then either. Eos joined shortly afterward, │
│ and he agreed to the shutdown as well. My mistake at the time │
│ was not talking to TSR. GEcko didn't make it clear to me that │
│ he and TSR were a team, and that TSR made a lot of decisions │
│ in NXS. If I had talked to TSR then, he would have had to │
│ swear to the shutdown as well, but since I didn't, I guess he │
│ didn't feel beholden to it. Well, we kicked ass until December, │
│ when someone turned in Zeus. Zeus stopped supplying, and in │
│ January, when we were supposed to be shutting down, TSR │
│ started putting out budget releases and talking about the │
│ resurgence of Razor in the nfo files. He also started │
│ calling dist sites, telling them to send him money, and even │
│ increased their monthly contribution .. To make a long story │
│ short, I went apeshit. The prime reason that we had decided │
│ to disband at the END of January, and not at the beginning, │
│ is because some of our paysites had paid through the end of │
│ Jan. and we didn't want to fuck them over. When TSR started │
│ asking for more money, it was apparent that he was trying to │
│ pull a fast one - or so I thought. It looked like he was │
│ trying to get cash out of these guys and bail. Well, to make a │
│ long story short, Eos/Gecko didn't keep their word, TSR did │
│ some shifty underhanded shit, and when I got back from Mardi │
│ Gras in February my account on TAG was gone. I got it back, │
│ quit the group, and all the old timers left with me. That was │
│ when Razor 1911 ceased to be what it once was. If you │
│ look in the nfo now, theres not one person that was in there │
│ before, except Sector9, but he's just in there because he │
│ wants to be in a group that's been around 10 years. S9 was one │
│ of the original founders, but didn't do anything for the last │
│ 1 1/2 years that I was in the group. │
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│ And as far as being sad about leaving the group. Yeah, at │
│ first I was disappointed about it, and pretty angry, but │
│ eventually I got used to it. You see, the whole reason I │
│ wanted to shut down Razor was because I didn't want it to │
│ turn lame. │
│ To Be Continued.. .. . │
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│ Due to the fact that both The Renegade Chemist and myself (Entropy), │
│ More or less have lifes outside of IRC we where not able tom complete │
│ the complete Spotlight on The Renegade Chemist. Look for the Second half │
│ and final part of this Spotlight in the next Defacto!! │
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