A letter to the scene by the leadership of Core by CORE
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1998 August 3
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Hello,
This letter is about lame groups that steal serials from hard working
groups. Did you damn ass nukers ever look at releases that hit your
site? Obviously not ... otherwise groups like TRPS would get
a world-wide mass-siteban. They frequently use keymakers and serials
from CORE, UCF, BLZ or RBS (groups that do hard work in the cracking
business) and noone seems to notice that. Look at the TRPS releases...
10% of the serials included in the NFO's are non-working, and 40% are
stolen. But I never see them nuked. I bet there are siteops out there
that would be happy to be affiled with this lame-ass group because
they release so much. CORE works its ass off to bring you tons of
keymakers and all I see is a mega lame scene that steals and rips our
keymakers without getting punished. This is the result of a VERY bad
organised scene. When i asked one day a DSI leader what he thinks about
a release that has been released under DSI with a serial done by a
CORE keymaker, he even didn't know they released it. The one who packaged
the release (he was the second leader of DSI) got the crack emailed by
a trial cracker. The other members of the group never heared of this
cracker being member of DSI. Welp - who the hell checks then the new
members and their work? I don't want to hurt DSI anymore coz DSI is
a good group. They just had two bad days where a new trial cracker
fucked around with them. Normally their work is ok. AND a lot of
lil crappy groups steal from DSI too.
Since CORE exists it happened one time that one of our "crackers" used
a keymaker from another group to create a serial. He got kicked as cracker
from the group on the next day. This is how every good group should act.
COZ THIS IS NOT CRACKING! THIS IS STEALING!
CORE and UCF seem to be alone with their cracking philosophy. For other
groups it seems to be normal to rip our work and to create serials with
our keymakers to create "their" "Regged" releases. And no one except us
notices that?! PREMIERE used CORE serials. VERSUS used CORE Serials.
TRPS used CORE serials. And so on ... there are a lot of these
groups out there but what does the scene do against these lame-ass ripping
groups? Nothing. It stays calm coz all it cares about is the KB-size of the
release. Who cares how long the creation of a keymaker took the crackers.
Or new groups like SpriteX ... does anyone look at their releases?
Their mega bullshit releases? These new groups pop out of the ground
daily. Did u ever notice they never have a cracker mentioned in their
nfo ? Or did u ever notice they release regged versions directly after
a cracking group released a keymaker for the former version and the
serial still works on the newer version? That some of these lil
groups use work from other groups seem to be normal for them. I don't
call this normal!
Let's look at a few examples:
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08/03/1998
MPEGPlayer V3.11 Windows *Registered* FROM TRPS
▓█▐ ┌┼───────────────────────────────┐┌─────────────────────────────┼┐
▒▒ ░█ ││ SUPPLiER......: RaYf00 ╞┼ REQUiRED CPU.......: Pentium
█▓▓ █▒▒ CRACKER.......: N/A REQUiRED RAM.......: 16MB+
▓ ░█▐ ┌│── STRiPPER......: N/A │ REQUiRED HD SPACE..: 16MB+
▒ ▓ ││ PACKAGER......: RaYf00 REQUiRED OS........: W9598NT
│ Unzip, unrar and run "xxxxx.exe".
Well i did this and unzip'ed this xxxx.exe! U know what the fuck it was?
A keymaker from CORE done by Vizion!
TRPS released also the former version of this cool mpeg player. Welp their
so called "cracker" did a nice serial. But the poor guy doesn't seem to
know a anythin' about cracking coz the serial was unique on every PC depending
on the PC data. SO his serial didn't work on other PC's. Noone noticed that.
So CORE released a Keymaker.Only to get this player regged on every PC.
What did TRPS ? They included our keymaker in their next release.
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08/03/98
▄▀ ▓ WinRescue 95 V7.05 Windows *Registered* ▒
▀ +▀▄█▌ █▓▓ └┬────∙·
·∙────┬┘ ▐█▓▐▓█▐
┌┼───────────────────────────────┐┌─────────────────────────────┼┐
▒▒ ░█ ││ SUPPLiER......: RaYf00 ╞┼ REQUiRED CPU.......: Pentium││
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▒▒ └│─ CRACKER.......: N/A ││ REQUiRED RAM.......: 16MB+ ─│┘
▓ ░█▐ ┌│
── STRiPPER......: N/A ││ REQUiRED HD SPACE..: 16MB+ ──│┐
▒▒ ▓
PACKAGER......: RaYf00 ┼╡ REQUiRED OS........: WIN95NT││
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│ Unzip, and run "setup.exe". │
│ Serial : msR3I8aUi9y2E84L │
You see this ? Cracker "N/A". Not Available.
CORE released the former version of this util. Serial was: msR3I8aUi9y2E84L
DID U EVER NOTICE FOR HOW MANY TRPS RELEASES THEY PUT OUT FIXES ?
(that often don't work 100%, too)
And did u ever notice how many PGC releases are non working ?
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Welp, another day i came upon a capture from an UCF cracker:
Session Start: Fri Jul 03 02:38:40 1998
Session Ident: [CRASH] ([email protected])
<[CRASH]> Can u code a keygen for Absolute FTP v1.0
<[CRASH]> i had the patch and the program :)
<_ryder_> i code no keygens only serials
<[CRASH]> k
[2:40] *** ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
[2:40] *** | [CRASH] | is: [email protected] (1) --
-+- CRASH OVERRIDE -+-
[2:40] *** [CRASH] on #UCF2000
[2:40] *** [CRASH] on irc02.irc.aol.com (ShiftF9 to change to this server)
[2:40] *** [CRASH] on [152.163.208.16] America Online EFNet Server
[2:40] *** ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
<_ryder_> why do you need a keygen???
<[CRASH]> so i can update this in future versions.
<_ryder_> hehe a serial works too
<_ryder_> ;)
<_ryder_> gimme the url
<[CRASH]> can u serial it for me :)
<[CRASH]> k
<[CRASH]> i have it on mhd
<[CRASH]> 1 MB
<[CRASH]> small :)
<_ryder_> may be
<[CRASH]> i'll dcc
<_ryder_> oki
<[CRASH]> sorry
<[CRASH]> i got pingged
<[CRASH]> i'm dcc sending hold
<_ryder_> hehe oki np
Session Close: Fri Jul 03 02:53:27 1998
Session Start: Fri Jul 03 02:53:44 1998
Session Ident: [CRASH] ([email protected])
<[CRASH]> thanks
<[CRASH]> if you can do serial
<[CRASH]> do
<[CRASH]> name: CRASH
<[CRASH]> group: TRPS
<[CRASH]> i've been trying
<[CRASH]> it's tough
<_ryder_> haha trps
<_ryder_> ?????????
<[CRASH]> ftp://ftp.vandyke.com/pub/AbsoluteFTP/aftp10.exe
<[CRASH]> try that
<_ryder_> its a lame cracking group
<[CRASH]> maybe faster than dcc
<_ryder_> no way
<[CRASH]> :)
<_ryder_> take another groupname
<[CRASH]> just help me create a keygen
<_ryder_> haha
<_ryder_> have other things to do
<_ryder_> man
<[CRASH]> k
<[CRASH]> name: CRASH
<[CRASH]> k
<[CRASH]> ferget it
Session Close: Fri Jul 03 02:56:50 1998
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Crash (who should be very well known for he's tendencies in asking
ppl about their private life and for infiltrating groups), applied
as UCF Trial cracker and then asked UCF crackers to do serials IN
HIS NAME for TRPS.
And now i ask the so important Mr. I-KNOW-ALL sitennukers... DO YOU
EVER CHECK RELEASES ?!?! Probably not - coz otherwise u would have
noticed that a lot of releases are based on non working crap
serials, stolen serials, carded serials or even stolen (ORIGINAL
LOGO FROM OTHER GROUPS ARE STILL INCLUDED) keygenerators.
Welp i bet if you ban now all TRPS releases the guy who is responsible
for this piece of pure scene shit just renames his group and releases
his shit under a new name. And I have to tell you the whole story
again in a few weeks. So what we need is a change in the ppls' minds
towards the whole thing.
Stop RIPPING serials/keymakers from other groups. And I call out to
all site-nukers: KEEP CHECKING THE RELEASES THAT GET UPLOADED TO YOUR
SITE. If you notice a group that lives in the scene from the work of
hard working cracking groups then site-ban it - other sites will follow.
Please care about this problem - EVERYONE!
We at CORE are thinking at the moment of a public channel where
we offer ALL of our keymakers to the public scene. But all I know
at the moment is that other groups will abuse this service by
leeching very fast and easy older keymakers from core to create
serials for newer versions of a special product.
In the past cracking groups had a silent rule: NEVER release a
"regged" release if another group did make a keymaker for the older
version. If the other group did create a keymaker for the former
version then u had to make also a keymaker for the newer version
(if this was possible).
This rule got lost when all these lil new cheating regging groups
came. Their members are group-hoppers or affil collectors, 90%
of the members are couriers that never saw a debugger or hexeditor
on their monitor. If the group gets to worse its members simply
quit the group and then reform under a new name. Just look every
few months at member listings. U will see the same members time
after time using a new name for simply the same group.
Groups that come into my mind when I talk about stealing serials,
and using keygens from other groups are: TRPS, VERSUS, SPRITEX,
PREMIERE. I know there are many more than just these examples I
focussed on. So how about following the rules a lil bit more? They
were set up to keep the scene running. At the moment these lil
crappy groups take out all the fun coz WE REALIZE that our work
is being abused by other groups. And when we lose the fun we will
stop our work for the scene's benefit. Everyone can USE our work
as long as he doesn't re-release it to get new credits for it.
signed,
CORE LEADER
(C)HALLENGE (O)F (R)EVERSE (E)NGINEERING