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0 of 228 files the crazed asylum

1998 August 3

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Hello, This letter is about lame groups that steal serials from hard working groups. Did you damn ass nukers ever look at releases that hit your site? Obviously not ... otherwise groups like TRPS would get a world-wide mass-siteban. They frequently use keymakers and serials from CORE, UCF, BLZ or RBS (groups that do hard work in the cracking business) and noone seems to notice that. Look at the TRPS releases... 10% of the serials included in the NFO's are non-working, and 40% are stolen. But I never see them nuked. I bet there are siteops out there that would be happy to be affiled with this lame-ass group because they release so much. CORE works its ass off to bring you tons of keymakers and all I see is a mega lame scene that steals and rips our keymakers without getting punished. This is the result of a VERY bad organised scene. When i asked one day a DSI leader what he thinks about a release that has been released under DSI with a serial done by a CORE keymaker, he even didn't know they released it. The one who packaged the release (he was the second leader of DSI) got the crack emailed by a trial cracker. The other members of the group never heared of this cracker being member of DSI. Welp - who the hell checks then the new members and their work? I don't want to hurt DSI anymore coz DSI is a good group. They just had two bad days where a new trial cracker fucked around with them. Normally their work is ok. AND a lot of lil crappy groups steal from DSI too. Since CORE exists it happened one time that one of our "crackers" used a keymaker from another group to create a serial. He got kicked as cracker from the group on the next day. This is how every good group should act. COZ THIS IS NOT CRACKING! THIS IS STEALING! CORE and UCF seem to be alone with their cracking philosophy. For other groups it seems to be normal to rip our work and to create serials with our keymakers to create "their" "Regged" releases. And no one except us notices that?! PREMIERE used CORE serials. VERSUS used CORE Serials. TRPS used CORE serials. And so on ... there are a lot of these groups out there but what does the scene do against these lame-ass ripping groups? Nothing. It stays calm coz all it cares about is the KB-size of the release. Who cares how long the creation of a keymaker took the crackers. Or new groups like SpriteX ... does anyone look at their releases? Their mega bullshit releases? These new groups pop out of the ground daily. Did u ever notice they never have a cracker mentioned in their nfo ? Or did u ever notice they release regged versions directly after a cracking group released a keymaker for the former version and the serial still works on the newer version? That some of these lil groups use work from other groups seem to be normal for them. I don't call this normal! Let's look at a few examples: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 08/03/1998 MPEGPlayer V3.11 Windows *Registered* FROM TRPS ▓█▐ ┌┼───────────────────────────────┐┌─────────────────────────────┼┐ ▒▒ ░█ ││ SUPPLiER......: RaYf00 ╞┼ REQUiRED CPU.......: Pentium █▓▓ █▒▒ CRACKER.......: N/A REQUiRED RAM.......: 16MB+ ▓ ░█▐ ┌│── STRiPPER......: N/A │ REQUiRED HD SPACE..: 16MB+ ▒ ▓ ││ PACKAGER......: RaYf00 REQUiRED OS........: W9598NT │ Unzip, unrar and run "xxxxx.exe". Well i did this and unzip'ed this xxxx.exe! U know what the fuck it was? A keymaker from CORE done by Vizion! TRPS released also the former version of this cool mpeg player. Welp their so called "cracker" did a nice serial. But the poor guy doesn't seem to know a anythin' about cracking coz the serial was unique on every PC depending on the PC data. SO his serial didn't work on other PC's. Noone noticed that. So CORE released a Keymaker.Only to get this player regged on every PC. What did TRPS ? They included our keymaker in their next release. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 08/03/98 ▄▀ ▓ WinRescue 95 V7.05 Windows *Registered* ▒ ▀ +▀▄█▌ █▓▓ └┬────∙· ·∙────┬┘ ▐█▓▐▓█▐ ┌┼───────────────────────────────┐┌─────────────────────────────┼┐ ▒▒ ░█ ││ SUPPLiER......: RaYf00 ╞┼ REQUiRED CPU.......: Pentium││ █▓▓ █ ▒▒ └│─ CRACKER.......: N/A ││ REQUiRED RAM.......: 16MB+ ─│┘ ▓ ░█▐ ┌│ ── STRiPPER......: N/A ││ REQUiRED HD SPACE..: 16MB+ ──│┐ ▒▒ ▓ PACKAGER......: RaYf00 ┼╡ REQUiRED OS........: WIN95NT││ ▐█▓ │ Unzip, and run "setup.exe". │ │ Serial : msR3I8aUi9y2E84L │ You see this ? Cracker "N/A". Not Available. CORE released the former version of this util. Serial was: msR3I8aUi9y2E84L DID U EVER NOTICE FOR HOW MANY TRPS RELEASES THEY PUT OUT FIXES ? (that often don't work 100%, too) And did u ever notice how many PGC releases are non working ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Welp, another day i came upon a capture from an UCF cracker: Session Start: Fri Jul 03 02:38:40 1998 Session Ident: [CRASH] ([email protected]) <[CRASH]> Can u code a keygen for Absolute FTP v1.0 <[CRASH]> i had the patch and the program :) <_ryder_> i code no keygens only serials <[CRASH]> k [2:40] *** ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ [2:40] *** | [CRASH] | is: [email protected] (1) -- -+- CRASH OVERRIDE -+- [2:40] *** [CRASH] on #UCF2000 [2:40] *** [CRASH] on irc02.irc.aol.com (ShiftF9 to change to this server) [2:40] *** [CRASH] on [152.163.208.16] America Online EFNet Server [2:40] *** ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ <_ryder_> why do you need a keygen??? <[CRASH]> so i can update this in future versions. <_ryder_> hehe a serial works too <_ryder_> ;) <_ryder_> gimme the url <[CRASH]> can u serial it for me :) <[CRASH]> k <[CRASH]> i have it on mhd <[CRASH]> 1 MB <[CRASH]> small :) <_ryder_> may be <[CRASH]> i'll dcc <_ryder_> oki <[CRASH]> sorry <[CRASH]> i got pingged <[CRASH]> i'm dcc sending hold <_ryder_> hehe oki np Session Close: Fri Jul 03 02:53:27 1998 Session Start: Fri Jul 03 02:53:44 1998 Session Ident: [CRASH] ([email protected]) <[CRASH]> thanks <[CRASH]> if you can do serial <[CRASH]> do <[CRASH]> name: CRASH <[CRASH]> group: TRPS <[CRASH]> i've been trying <[CRASH]> it's tough <_ryder_> haha trps <_ryder_> ????????? <[CRASH]> ftp://ftp.vandyke.com/pub/AbsoluteFTP/aftp10.exe <[CRASH]> try that <_ryder_> its a lame cracking group <[CRASH]> maybe faster than dcc <_ryder_> no way <[CRASH]> :) <_ryder_> take another groupname <[CRASH]> just help me create a keygen <_ryder_> haha <_ryder_> have other things to do <_ryder_> man <[CRASH]> k <[CRASH]> name: CRASH <[CRASH]> k <[CRASH]> ferget it Session Close: Fri Jul 03 02:56:50 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Crash (who should be very well known for he's tendencies in asking ppl about their private life and for infiltrating groups), applied as UCF Trial cracker and then asked UCF crackers to do serials IN HIS NAME for TRPS. And now i ask the so important Mr. I-KNOW-ALL sitennukers... DO YOU EVER CHECK RELEASES ?!?! Probably not - coz otherwise u would have noticed that a lot of releases are based on non working crap serials, stolen serials, carded serials or even stolen (ORIGINAL LOGO FROM OTHER GROUPS ARE STILL INCLUDED) keygenerators. Welp i bet if you ban now all TRPS releases the guy who is responsible for this piece of pure scene shit just renames his group and releases his shit under a new name. And I have to tell you the whole story again in a few weeks. So what we need is a change in the ppls' minds towards the whole thing. Stop RIPPING serials/keymakers from other groups. And I call out to all site-nukers: KEEP CHECKING THE RELEASES THAT GET UPLOADED TO YOUR SITE. If you notice a group that lives in the scene from the work of hard working cracking groups then site-ban it - other sites will follow. Please care about this problem - EVERYONE! We at CORE are thinking at the moment of a public channel where we offer ALL of our keymakers to the public scene. But all I know at the moment is that other groups will abuse this service by leeching very fast and easy older keymakers from core to create serials for newer versions of a special product. In the past cracking groups had a silent rule: NEVER release a "regged" release if another group did make a keymaker for the older version. If the other group did create a keymaker for the former version then u had to make also a keymaker for the newer version (if this was possible). This rule got lost when all these lil new cheating regging groups came. Their members are group-hoppers or affil collectors, 90% of the members are couriers that never saw a debugger or hexeditor on their monitor. If the group gets to worse its members simply quit the group and then reform under a new name. Just look every few months at member listings. U will see the same members time after time using a new name for simply the same group. Groups that come into my mind when I talk about stealing serials, and using keygens from other groups are: TRPS, VERSUS, SPRITEX, PREMIERE. I know there are many more than just these examples I focussed on. So how about following the rules a lil bit more? They were set up to keep the scene running. At the moment these lil crappy groups take out all the fun coz WE REALIZE that our work is being abused by other groups. And when we lose the fun we will stop our work for the scene's benefit. Everyone can USE our work as long as he doesn't re-release it to get new credits for it. signed, CORE LEADER (C)HALLENGE (O)F (R)EVERSE (E)NGINEERING
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