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1999 June 8

DMS vs ViCE vs AMN.
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We got all the usual gear.. buds, blitz's, my crap, and welcome tech to the NWR crew, as the weektop dude.. Sadly, now that Lester is retired from the courier scene, this will be his last courier report.. interested parties should come find me on the net, and we'll hold tryouts or smth.. ;p Since MrPumpkin has been in the news so much, we decided to include a childhook pic of him that bandido was kind enough to send to us.. That pic is called "youngmrp.jpg".. enjoy! Issue 52 will be our aniversary issue... webpage not yet done, fuck off.. ;p Its been an interesting week.. good luck kids.. ndetroit [Co-Editor/Head Fatass] -----------[ index ]----------- I.) Intro a) Lester b) ndetroit II.) Quotes of the Week III.) Stats - Ndetroit's Weekly Stats, and comments on Sites. IV.) Lester's Biased Courier Report V.) Articles a) Blitz's Slightly Biased Games Report b) Bud's Biased Utils Report c) Lesters Moview Reviews d) VCD Group and Movie Reviews e) DiMENSiON DiViSiON f) DMS vs ViCE vs AMN -- The Interviews VI.) Scene News - All the news that's fit to print VII.) Rumors! VIII.) Closing ---------------------[ Quotes of the Week! ]--------------------- -<glen-> how can we sleep now, we are only like 5 hours away from nwr -<Kruzin^-> I kiss no ones ass -<norseman_> so umm <norseman_> can we have sex or smth? <norseman_> can i be in nwr this week? <norseman_> i have never been in it -<Blitz> I remember a dude from PENTAGRAM came to my house to beat me up once <Blitz> He was mad because we beat them on this game <Blitz> He turned out to be this skinny nerd and like I was having a kegger that night with my buddies <Blitz> Heh, you can imagine <Bleeding> not fanfan i hope :) <Blitz> not fan fan -<rocker> The Purple Cow <rocker> by: Gelett Burgess <rocker> I never saw a Purple Cow, <rocker> I never hope to see one; <rocker> But I can tell you anyhow, <rocker> I'd rather see one than be one. -<duranged> op me <duranged> bitches <glen-> ^^ how to win friends & influance people -<bizzybone> PHEAR! <bizzybone> if only sites resetted today :P <bizzybone> i'd be a happy man <redman-> hmm <redman-> i see no #1's <redman-> you shouldn't be talking.. go zip up c:\windows, you need a pre -<sj-sleep> Glen has left RISC <sj-sleep> and couriering in general <sj-sleep> u done? <glen-> yea <glen-> where does it say that? <Ryche> #warez950 <Ryche> its their topic -----------[ ndetroit's sites and stats section ]----------- Blah. ATX is gone. That leaves a bevy of potential WHQ affils to be divyed up amongst a whole lotta sites... watch out! The first site to win the affil lottery is House Of God, picking up the position of Vengeance WHQ.. Good work to them, especially in light of the fact that they managed to get rid of their practically useless PRM affil.. good trade... ;p TWiLiGHT (still around?!?!) became the VGC ISO HQ.. TOS is the #1 US site now. Congrats to them. Class, Siege, Dev, a staff full of pretty nice guys, and a wacky daemon! FUBAR.. ... drop RiSC... ... pick up AMN.... ... just like back in tha day... (of course, then i guess they would have to pick up rzr again too... easier said than done!) Speaking of Razor1911 affils, TheDome become a proud razor site this week... good work to them.. No, _I'M_ Ken Griffey Jr.... Sooo.. since dms is dead as of this week.. that leaves their 6 sites out of an affil.. DMS's sites were: E, MG, DFX, PR, MF, and TMS... Vultures, start your engines! Since i am usually so goddamn busy doing the other parts of nwr, we have the world famous TECH doing our weektops this week.. good luck to you, buddy, and nice to have you on board... Siteops!! send your weektops to: [email protected], or give them to _tech_... Thanks to all those that support us every week... ;) =--------------------------------------------------------------------------= Sites are rated on a 3X and 2X scale.. if you want to know why we do it that way, read an old issue. Couriers get 10 points per site they get #1 on, 9 points for 2nd place, 8 points for 3rd, etc, etc. Sites are rated by us. If you don't like the ratings, then.... heh... fuck off and die.. =--------------------------------------------------------------------------= The Top Ten sites for this week are: x2.5 FS -*- STH -*- FH x2.0 ET -*- CAT -*- DLS x1.5 HOG -*- TOS -*- TWH -*- trader group FS STH FH ET CAT DLS HOG TOS TWH K pts ------------------------------------------------------------------ tc DEV 3 1 6 2 1 1 - 1 1 - 145.5 godbless DEV 4 3 5 3 2 3 - 4 2 1 141.5 Garoto DEV 2 2 2 1 4 - - 2 - - 111 cedric AOD 5 6 3 4 5 4 - - - 3 103 darkwolf AOD 6 8 10 5 3 7 - - - - 63 jaydee DEV 1 - 1 - - - - - - - 50 Psychic_A AV - 7 8 6 8 - - - - 4 45.5 mrpumpkin DMS 8 9 7 8 7 8 - - - - 42.5 sketch THD - - 4 - - - 2 - 7 - 37 zarkof AOD 7 - - - 9 6 - - - 5 33 =--------------------------------=--------------------------------------= -----------[ Lester's Biased Courier Section ]----------- Lester's Final Biased Courier Report Well guys, it's been a long and fun ride. But since I am no longer going to be actively involved in the courier scene. It seems trivial for me to do a report on it. I am not sure who will permanently replace me in this area and those of you who wish to fill the void can enter your reports and the person who does the best job will get the job obviously. Anyways, without further adieu.. AOD: I made a mistake last week in saying EQL instead of EPT. My apologies to both groups for my mistake. AOD has only minor news this week, picking up Alkivar from the now extinct DMS. AOD continues to make believers out of the skeptics that they are the next powerhouse in the scene, eventually taking down the premachine of Devotion. We will see how they do. Final Analysis: Despite a disturbing comment from Morbid, Thumbs Up. Devotion: I think that Jaydee should be restricted from all computer access when he gets drunk, because he is a complete idiot when he is. Imagine this, accusing a trader of cheating for having like 1900 restarts on a site. Now this is too many restarts we all agree, but he refuses to look at the fact that Godbless and Garoto have that on virtually every site every week. The Hypocrasy of Devotion continues to make them the new Risc in the scene, but as of right now nobody is tearing down their new monopoly on the top sites and pre scene. Maybe in time the old schoolers of Devotion will finally step up and put things the way they should be, but I kind of doubt it. Final Analysis: Thumbs Down for the overall change of the group. Thumbs up for swallowing up virtually every site and pre they can find. Risc: I don't have much to review here. I heard that Cuban is ready to move on to another group, which will leave Risc even more fucked than before. Glen has retired and that leaves Risc with not much happening. But as Risc devotees will say, they will never die. Final Analysis: Thumbs Down. Millennium: Again, another group who doesn't know when they should call it quits. Final Analysis: Thumbs Down. Esprit: This is the group who had been discussing the merge with MNM, not EQL. Final Analysis: Couldn't hurt to merge I guess. Thumbs Down. Equality: Snap and not much else make up this group. Teklord is a cool mofo and so they get a point for that. Final Analysis: Thumbs Down. DSC: The faithful US guys have failed to branch out anymore or make any further impression than they did. An overall lack of experience and direction seem to prevent this group from having a very long future. Final Analysis: Thumbs Down. Thunder: I haven't even reviewed these guys before I don't think. But THD continues to trade on the smaller sites and refuses to sell out their beliefs in pursuit of #1. Sketch gets the big bonus points here. Final Analysis: Thumbs up for some integrity in a courier scene which has long been without. Ambition: Well they are now back where they started and not looking good at all. Final Analysis: Thumbs Down. \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ The New Shop Vice: The once mildly successful group that was torn apart by Bandido/Machv has now been reformed by Mrpumpkin and Bluie. This has apparantly upset Bandido quite a bit, but we'll see if he will actually do anything about it. The group is mostly made up of the DMS people who went with Mrpumpkin, but they are rapidly accepting members. This can either be seen as a sign that ppl are excited, or that Vice is trying to get to #1 too quick before establishing any roots to support the mass traders. What will come of this group? Most seem to agree that a 6 month run around the top 3 is expected, and then a splitting of the people to other perspective groups. Final and Firsttime Analysis: A group that has some talent and an excitement to prove themselves. But every new group has this, very few will survive past 6 months. I don't think that this will be one. They should do a few exciting things between now and then though. Amnesia: Well, the once great Amnesia has been revived by the DMS people who chose not to form Vice, with Caserd at the helm and some of the former AMN brethren returning to the fold. The group has caused a stir among old schoolers who were once a part of it. This group has the same possibilities as Vice as well because everyone is pumped to prove things, but it has a few things Vice does not in the more respected name, and a stronger depth of staff. Predictions have been that after a year or so it'll be AMN and AOD vying for #1..and others think it will follow the same path as Vice. Final and Firsttime Analysis: Skeptics worry that the revival of AMN will take away from the glory of the original incarnation, others think that it will return to the former glory. Everyone has an opinion and everyone is a critic. I believe that good things can come from Amnesia or I would not have given my blessing to the reformation obviously <g>. No need to have NWR called the Amnesia Propaganda magazine tho, so I won't say much more. Good luck to all above mentioned groups, and if I didn't mention you, well then you need to try a little harder or not care what I have to say one way or another. It's been fun to make fun of you and follow the roller coaster of the courier scene with you all. For those of you who hated this report, well hopefully the new guy will be more to your liking, and for those of you who liked the report, I thank you for the support and I hope you continue to enjoy this report by whoever takes it over. Carpe Cerevisi =----------------------------------=--------------------------------------= -----------[ Articles ]----------- =----------------------------------=--------------------------------------= -----------[ Blitz's Slightly Biased Gaming Report]----------- THE BLITZ REPORT FOR THE WEEK OF 05/31/99 - 06/06/99 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Things were quiet in the game scene this week, a bit of a relief after last week's fiascoes on the two raced games. Short and sweet this will be, not much of a week at all. There were NO decent games released this week. Game of the week is a scoreless draw. ▄██▀██▄ ▐█▄ █▄ ▐██▌ ▐██▌ ▀ ▀▀ ▀▀ ▀▀▀▀▐█▓▌▓█▀▀▀ ▀▀▀ ▀ ▀ ▐██▌ ▐██▌██▄▀█▀██▄▀██▄▐█▀▐█▓▌▄ ▐█▀██▄▀▄██▄ ▐██▌▄██▀ ▐▓█▌▌ ██▓ ▐██▌▌ ▐██▌██ ▌ ▐██▌█ ██▌ ▐██▌ ▄██▀▄██▌▌ ▄▄▄▀▄██▌ ▐██▌██▌ ▐██▌█ ▐██ ▐██▌▐██▌ ▐█▓▌▌▐██▌ ▐█▓▌▌ ▐█▓▌█▓▌▌ ▐█▓▌█ ▐█▓ ▐██▌ ▀██▄█▀█▌█▄▀██▄█▀█▌█▄██▀▄██▌█▄▐█▓▌▀ ██▓ ==============================▄▄▄=▐██▌===== ▀███▄███ ▀▀▀▀▀ Paradigm owns patches. Anyone want to disagree? They did this week at least. We see a slew of updates for all sorts of games, including ones for CDilla games Machines and Championship Manager 3. Upwords follows in the tradition of Tribond. It's a game. Leave it at that. Persistence and skilled crackers win PDM another week. Points Release Title ~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 0.5 Machines_Update_v1.1-PARADiGM (2.7M) 0.5 Requiem_Avenging_Angel_v1.2_Cracked-PARADiGM (1.8M) 1.0 Upwords-PARADiGM (42.3M) 0.5 Malkari_v1.1_Cracked-PARADiGM (0.9M) 0.0 Warzone_2100_Update_v1.04-PARADiGM (1.4M) 0.5 Powerslide.1.04.Update.Cracked-PARADiGM (11.7M) 0.5 Jimmy_Whites_2_Cueball_v1.06_Cracked-PARADiGM (9.2M) 0.5 Championship_Manager_3_Update_v3.03d-PARADiGM (2.1M) --- 4.0 __ ______ ______ ____ _____ ____ _____ \// _ \ _ \_\__/ _ \_\__/_\_ \ / / / / /. / / / / / / \______/ \____|_/\___ /___/___/ / --------|___|---------/____\------/____\- From what I understand this addon was kicking around a few other groups before Origin pounced on it. With Tomb Raider III already out for half a year, this one looks to be spending more time in bargain bins than on the best seller charts. Points Release Title ~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1.0 Tomb.Raider.2.Golden.Mask-ORIGIN (15.4M) 0.5 Tomb_Raider_2_Gold_Plus4_TRAINER-ORIGIN (0.1M) --- 1.5 ______ /| ___ /\______ /\______ / \/ | / _ \ / _____/ _____> / |_ / |/ | \\____ \ \____ \ < | < / | / | \/ | \ \ _____\_<____|___\_____ /\_____ / +=\/======================\/=======\/==+ Seems Mr. Skill has relaxed some of his control of this group, turning a lot of the day-to-day functions over to Prozac. Congratz to my predecessor on his promotion. Let's see more than cheat codes next week. Points Release Title ~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 0.5 F-22_Lightning_3_Cheat_Codes-CLS (0.0M) --- 0.5 /\______ /\______ ____/\______ __ \____ \/ \__ \/ _ \____ \ __/ \____ / _/ _/ \/ / / / _/ _// / / / / / / \ \ /\ / /\ / / \ \/ /\ / / / \__/\ \/ \______\___/\__/\ \/ / /_/_/ ======\___)===\__)============\___)=\/======= Razor apparently didn't remember to Hoyle Craps and Blackjack to see if it had been released before. It had, as a part of another Casino suite. I guess you can't blame them, but rules are rules. Two points were deducted, and made up on their next release, another card game/whatever title. Razor breaks even for the week, and ends up in last place. Points Release Title ~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -2.0 HOYLE_CRAPS_AND_BLACKJACK-RAZOR *NUKED* 2.0 HOYLE_SOLITAIRE_AND_MAHJONGG-RAZOR (12.9M) --- 0.0 Mercifully this week's report is done. I apologize for the boring read, but let's face it... There weren't any games to talk about. Here's to next week, which will be full of serious titles. Next week will be where the month is won. =----------------------------------=--------------------------------------= -----------[ Bud's Biased Utils Section ]----------- Bud's Biased Utils Report #23 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Alright, I just picked up the new disc from The Tea Party... so this intro is gonna suck. Bite me. This intro ends at the end of this sentence... this sentence right now... PERIOD. Disclaimer: It's BIASED moron. My opinion. So don't send me a bunch of mail & messages bitching about this or that. If you don't like it... SCREW YOU =] Rankings: Groups get a score out of 10. Points are given for amount of releases, but QUALITY titles will give a group a much higher score. Nukes for duping, broken releases and just plain CRAP will lower a groups score. However on the occasion that a title is nuked which I don't feel should have been, MY OWN JUDGEMENT TAKES PRECEDENCE. Cuz I'm writing this. Groups can also get points for any other reason I see fit. Week: Week is based from 06/01/99 to 06/07/99. I'm in the EST time zone so dates/times run according to it. Groups: (In no particular order) ▄ ▀▀██▄ ▄ ▄ ▄ ▀█▄ ▀█▌▀█▄ ▐ ▄█▀ ▄▄██▌ A Group ▐█▌ ▐▌ ▐█ █▌▐█▌ ▄█▀ █ That Gives ▄██▌▄▀ ▄██▌▀██▌ ██ ▐▌ Slightly ▀███ ▀███ ▀█ ▐███▄▄ █ Less Than ▐█▌ ▐█▌ ▐▌ ▀██▀ ▀▄ A Fuck. ▀ ▀ ▀ ▀ -XeN PIRATES WITH ATTITUDE: Releases: Frame.Relay.addon.for.Visio.Enterprise.5.0-PWA Intergraph.Geomedia.3.0.Pro-PWA Well they won on an addon... yawn. Intergraph again, a major version at least. Total: 4/10 ▄───── ▄▄▄ ────────── ▄▄█▓▄ ─── ▄ ─ ▄▓▄ ░ ▀ ▄█████▓ ▄▄███▄ ▄▀▀████▌ ▄█████▄ ▀ ▓███▀ ▀▄██████▄▀█▌ ▐████▐▓▀ ▀███▓ ▓███▌ ▐▓█▀ ▀██▌▐▓ ▀ ▀▓▀▓▌ ▐███▌ ▐█████▄▄▀ ▀█▄ ▄▓█▓ █▓▄ █▌▀▄▄████▓ ▀██▓▀▀ ▀ ▀▀▀▀ ▀ ■▄ ▐▓ ▀▀▓█▀ ■▄──────+ The Corporation +─ ▀▄ ─gas!─■ THE CORPORATION: Releases: Beason.Love.My.Car.v1.0-CORP Time.Reporter.v2.04-CORP Mavis.Beacon.Teaches.Typing.9.Deluxe-CORP Microsoft.Outlook.2000.Corporate-CORP Front.Page.2000.Corporate.Edition-CORP Office.2000.Corporate.Edition.WORKING-CORP I can type just fine with two fingers, thanks! And I don't love my car... in fact I'm hoping someone steals my car while I'm writing this, so I can collect on it and go for a new one. Well that's not true, I do like my car. My point is, what's happening to the quality control in Corp? I'm stretching this a little, but you get the idea... dupes last week, and a typing app this week. Give them credit, they came back with some good stuff... Office 2K is a bit iffy... hell I'm sick of MS shit altogether now, but I'll give it to them. FP is better. Total: 7/10 . )\_______)\__)\_______)\_______ . . __/ __ _/ _/ ____/ ___/ . . \__ / _\ \_____ \ ___/__ : . :/ \ \ / \ / \| : |\___/ /___/_____ /___ /| : | \_/_____/\____ /_____/___/_____/ | :...`---\_____\/----/_flr_/---/_p^D_/--' RISE: Releases: N/A Total: N/A ▄██▀███▀▀ ▀ ▄█ ┌- ▓██ ▀▀ ▀▀▀ ────-──-─-─ ▀▀▀ -──-──-──┐ : ▀▀▀██▄▀███▀▀▀▀▀██▄ ▄██▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀██▄ ░│ ▀▀███▓ ███ ███ ▓██ ███ ███ ▓██ ▓██ ███ ░: : ███ ███ ███ ███▀▀▀ ▓██ ███ ███▀▀▀ . │░ ███ ██▓ ██▓ ███ ██▓ ███ ███ ███ ▓███▀▀ : ▓██▄██▀▄███▄▀██▄███ ▀██▄███ ███ ███ : ▄ ▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ roy███ ███ ███ ─┘ ▀▄ ███ ███ ██▓ ▀▄ ███ ▀▀▀▀▀▀ ▀██▓ ▀█ SIEGE: Releases: IMAGECAST.IC3.V3.1-SiEGE AUTODESK.AUTOCAD.MAP.2000.V4.0-SiEGE IBM.PAYMENT.SERVER.V1.2.19.1-SiEGE ACTIONWORKS.PROCESS.MANAGER.V4.03-SiEGE ACTIONWORKS.PROCESS.BUILDER.DEVELOPER.EDITION.V4.0-SiEGE VIRTUAL.GIBBS.CRACK.FIX.V5.06-SiEGE PANOPTICUM.LENS.PRO.FOR.ADOBE.AFTER.EFFECTS.V1.1-SiEGE IBM.NET.COMMERCE.PRO.V3.1.2.2.UPGRADE-SiEGE IBM.NET.COMMERCE.HOSTING.SERVER.V3.1.2-SiEGE LOTUS.1-2-3.MILLENIUM.EDITION.V9.5-SiEGE MACROMEDIA.FLASH.FINAL.V4.0-SIEGE LOTUS.QUICKPLACE.OFFLINE.V1.0-SiEGE DIGIMATION.SHAG.FUR.V1.4D.FOR.3DSMAX.R2.X-SiEGE PANOPTICUM.FIRE.V1.1.FOR.ADOBE.AFTER.EFFECTS-SiEGE LOTUS.SMARTSUITE.MILLENIUM.EDITION.V9.5.ADDONS-SiEGE LOTUS.SMARTSUITE.MILLENIUM.EDITION.V9.5-SiEGE DIGIMATION.LIGHTNING.V1.1D-SiEGE Busy, busy, busy, with killer apps from IBM, Lotus (ok basically IBM again :P), Macromedia, Autodesk, as well as the usual art titles. A fix for last weeks Virtual Gibbs, and LND released a newer version this week so just fuck it and get v5.1 from LND. Yuk I'm plugging LND... bad taste in my mouth or something... j/k :) Anyways you can't argue with the selection this week or not, even if you think Lotus apps are the crud of the Earth, which I don't. Total: 8/10 ──────────────────────────────────[XX/XX]─ ▄██ ▄▄▄ ░ ▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ █▓█ █▓█ ▒ ██▀ █▓█ █ █▓█ ██ █▓█ █ ███ ██ █▓ █▒█ █▒█ █░█ ▀▀ ▄█ █▒█ ██ █▒█ █ ▄▄▄ ██▄▄ ▄██▀██▄ ▀ █▒█▀▀▀ ██ █░█ ██ ▄▄█ █▓█ ██ ▄▄ █▒█ █▓█ ▓ █▓█ ░ █▓█ █░█ ██ ░ █▓█ █▒█ ██ █▓ ███ █▒█ ▒ ███ ▬▀█████▀▄██ ▒ ▀█████▀ ▀████ ─── ██▀ ░ ──────────────── ▓ ───── sikos ─ X-FORCE: Releases: DVMPEG_V5.01_CRACKED-XFORCE BLENDER_V1.63_CRACKED-XFORCE INPRISE_JBUILDER_V3_PRO-XFORCE XF won on an excellent title this week, Inprise's JBuilder Pro 3 final, which was released by Inprise (makers of Borland C++ Builder, etc) at the end of May. Nothing else of note but an excellent title in JBuilder. Total: 5/10 /\______/| ___/\_ _/ ______ :|; . __/\ ____/\ __| // %%%\____ \ |__:_\__ \/ ~~ :\_ | __/%%%% iii_/ :| \\_ \ ;| \_ |____/ \iiiii :::\__ ; _/ | \\_ : // | \\_ | \\_::: \____/---|____/____/_______/-|____/kaz SHOCK: Releases: MyDatabase.v2.0-SHOCK McAfee.Office.2000.v2.0-SHOCK Vorton.Gordon.Papes.Investment.Tools.v1.0-SHOCK LH.Voice.Xpress.Professional.v4.0-SHOCK Expert.Home.Design.3D.v6.0-SHOCK Check.2000.PC.Deluxe.v3.1-SHOCK Prody.Parrot.V2.0-SHOCK All store apps this week... SHK continues to move away from the web stuff. McAffee Office 2K is not free, some idiot believed that... scary... also scary: sheep nukers. Anyways it's a retail app ($50 or so), and unlike past editions, it isn't just a pack of dupes. All the components are new versions (Nuts & Bolts, Uninstaller, etc), with the exception of the AV and one other. And these versions aren't yet available on the web. Best app here however is LH Voice XPress Pro 4, from the Belgian (I believe) company L&H (Lernout & Hauspie), a rising star in the voice recognition field. Total: 7/10 . ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ .▀████▀▀▀██▄ ████▀▀██▌▐██▀▀▀▀ --- .------. : ████ ███ ▐███ ███ . | ████ ▐███ ███▀ ███ : | ████ ███ ▐███ ▄███ ███▄ . : | ████▀▀▀▀▀ ██▓█ ▀███▄▄██▓▀ . .▄▓███▄ ▀███▌ ▀▀ PRESENTS : | : : [xx/xx]. '---.-------PENTIUM FORCE TEAM-- ---- - -' PENTIUM FORCE TEAM: Releases: QuickWorks.8.0.3-PFT Renoir.99.1-PFT OnTime.Enterprise.4.7-PFT Renoir.99.1.26-PFT Reflection.X.7.2.REAL-PFT QARun.4.6.276-PFT Surf.Control.for.Microsoft.Proxy.Server.2.51a.WORKING-PFT Even Buceta had a better week than PFT... ok well not really. But some fuckups... Renior 99.1 was a dupe of Scum, PFT quickly rebounded with 99.1.26 - gotta wonder if both releases weren't the same, PFT often leaves off minor version info to make their releases look better, perhaps it backfired this time? Again this week PFT puts out a working version of a TRPS fuckup... bet there isn't much love lost there. Another version of QARun this week, and Quickworks. Total: 5/10 ▄ ▄ ▄ ▄ ▄▄▓▀▀ ▄ ▄▄█▀▀██▓▄ ▄▄▄█▀▀▓▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄ ▐██▓▌ ▄▄▄▄ ▐█▓█ ▐▓██▌ ▐▓██▌ ███▓ ▓██▌ ███▓ ▓██ ▓▄ ▓██▌ ███▓ ▓██▌ ▐██▓▌ ▐██▓ ▐█▓▌▐██▓ ██▓▌▐███▓ ████▓ ▀▀▀▀ ███▓ ██▓ ▐█▓█ ▀▀▀▀▀ ▄██▓▀ mg ▀ ▀▀▀▀████▓▌ ▀▀ ██▓▀ ▀ ▀▀▀▀▀▀ ▀ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ▀▀▓▀ ▀ ▀▀ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ▀ :: <LEGENDS NEVER DiE> ::: <o4 * 2880> :: ▄ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▄ LEGENDS NEVER DIE: Releases: CLARION.v5.0.WEB.EDITION-LND VIRTUAL.GIBBS.V5.1.CRACKED-LND Well they got the new Gibbs out shortly after SGE fixed their own earlier version, also Clarion 5 Web Edt. Not much action from a group which seems to be making big claims, but expect CAD dominance to continue even with a slow week... yeesh I'm tired of saying that. Someone put up a fight! Total: 4/10 .__________. [xx/xx/98] \_ ___ ) Da ToP oF Da LiNe! .___. ===/ _/ /=======================/ /===== .:/ _____/__./(___.____/\.______./ /_____. :/ /__/ . ) . )____ ) _ ) / __ ) /__/ / / / / // __ / /__/ / /___/: .:/ /__/__/__/__/(______\____ /__/_____ /MO =/__/========================\/========\/=== = THE PINNACLES OF RELEASING (C) PNC 95-98 = PINNACLE: Releases: ExpenseDirector.v3.0-PNC Y2K.Test.and.Fix.v1.14-PNC Talk-n-mail_v2000_and_keygen-PNC NetObjects.Fusion.v4.01-PNC Structure.Builder.v3.1.5-PNC Plexis.Point.of.Sale.v2.51-PNC Webtrax.v3.0-PNC Vermont.HighTest.Plus.v3.07-PNC Silver.Screen.Solid.Modeler.Pro.v6.72-PNC Glg.Toolkit.v2.3.Basic.Edition.Full.Bundle-PNC Fairly busy here... Good work getting to NetObjects Fusion quickly. I released Y2K Test and Fix (an earlier version) a while ago... not a bad app, not the best. Personally I'm not using anything. If my computer fucks up on Jan 1 2000, fuck it. My system sucks anyways, at least then I have an excuse to buy a new one. A lot of lesser apps here, dunno wtf half of em do, and I'm still focused more on the new Tea Party album than anything else. (for those of you who don't know their an excellent .ca band). Total: 6/10 ─ ▄▄ ── ▄▄▄ ─────────░──────────── ─── ── ─ ░▀ ▀█▄ ▀▀ ▀▌ ▀ ■ ▐▄ ■ ▄ ▀ ■ ▀ ▀ ▄▄▄ ▀ █ ▐█▌█ ▀ █▄▀▄ █▀█▄▀██ █ █▄▀▄ ▀▀ ▄▌ █▄▀▄ ▐█▌▄█▀▐█▌ ▐█▌▄ ▐█▌▐█▌▐█▌▐█▌▐█▌▄ █ ▐▀▀▐█▌▄ ▀▓▓ ▀▓▓ ▀▓▓ ▄▀▓▓ ▀ ▓▀ ▀▓▄▀▓█ ▄▐▓▌ ▀▓▓ ▄ ── ▀ ─── ▀ ─ ▀▀ ── ▀ ▀ ──── ▀ ▀▀ ▄▀▀ ─░─ ▀▀ PREMiERE 1998 RELEASES WITH STYLE [xx/xx/98] ──────────────────────────────────────────── PREMIERE: Releases: N/A Total: N/A _______________ ____________ ____________ \_ ___ \_ ___ \ ___ \_ _/ l/ / l/ / l/ / \______ / / / /____ / /| ======\________/\__________/[om]\________/== d(*)d D r i n k O r D i e 1 9 9 8 d(*)d ===================== [ DOD * xx-xxx-98 ] == DRINK OR DIE: Releases: Symantec_pcAnywhere_v9.0_Win9x_NT_REAL_FINAL-DOD Well, PWA admits to a beta, DOD gets the final. Not much else to be said, final is what counts, DOD wins with their first good offering (albeit only one release) in a few weeks. Total: 3/10 _______________________________[xx/xx] \_ _ \_ ____/_ _ \_ ____/ |_\ ___/ / _/ ___)/ _/ ___) | \___ \ / | \_ | \ | \ | \ : \ : \ \___| /___ \____ \___ \___ \___ \ ====|__/===\__/===\__/==\__/==\__/==\__/ REBELS: WE MAKE ALL DAYS PARTY DAYS >> RELEASING WITHOUT PERMISSION << REBELS: Releases: Max_Surf_Workshop_Pro_v2.16_Cracked_REPACK-RBS MaxSurf_Plus_v7.16_Cracked-RBS Max_Surf_Hullspeed_v2.16_Cracked_RBS Max_Surf_Hydrolink_v7.16_Cracked-RBS Max_Surf_Prefit_v7.16_Cracked-RBS Max_Surf_Pro_v7.16_Cracked-RBS Max_Surf_Span_v7.16_Cracked-RBS Max_Surf_S_v7.16_Cracked-RBS Max_Surf_T_v7.16_Cracked-RBS Hydromax_Pro_v7.16_Cracked-RBS Hydromax_S_v7.16_Cracked-RBS C-MOLD.3D.Quickfill_99.7-RBS Max_Surf_Neoform_v2.16_Cracked-RBS Max_Surf_Workshop_S_v2.16_Cracked-RBS I really hope we aren't going to be seeing Max updates every week, twice a month MAX should be it for minor updates. C Mold was the only thing not from the Max line this week. I didn't score all these as we've seen some for three weeks straight now. Total: 5/10 █▄▓▄■▀░▄ Teknorage and Pirasoft Present: ▄░▀■▄░▄█ █ ▐▄ ▌ █ █▓▀cH/SAC ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄█▄▄ [xx\xx] ▀▓█ ▀ ▄▄█▄▄▄▄ ▄ ▄██▌▐████▓ ▄▄█▓█████▓▀ ▄█▄▄████▄ ▀ ▄▄████▓ ▄▄▄ ▀████▌█████▌▐████▐████▌▐████▐█████▌ ▐██████▌▐█████▄ ▓███▀█████ ████ ▀████ ███▌▐██████ ██████ ███████▌▐███ ▐████▌▐███▌▄████▌ ▀█▄ ▀▀▀▀▀ ▐████▌▐███████ ████▄████▀ ▄████████▀ ▄▄ ▐█████▄ ▄▓███▓▄▓██████▌▐████▌▀▓█▄ ▀███▓▀▀ ▄████▌▓██████▌ ▀▀██████▀ ▀████▀ ▀▀▄ ▀█▀ ▀██▀▀██████▀ █▄▄▄▓▄▄▄ ▀▀▀ ▀ ▀ ▀▀▀ ▄█ ▀▀▀ ░▒▓█▄ xx/xx/98 ······ Ratzhole WHQ ▀ ▀▓▀▀▀ Teknorage & Pirasoft: Releases: Dataflow.v2.14.1-TRPS Register.Pro.Promotion.Spider.v1.9.Win9X-TRPS CyberDOCS.v3.0.beta-TRPS AccessDiver.v2.72-TRPS Adaptec.DirectCD.v2.5d-TRPS Turbo.CAD.v6.1.30.1b.Professional-TRPS Intelligent.SMTP.Gateway.v5.0.1.93-TRPS Live.Quality.Silk.Performer.v3.0.b2-TRPS Faxcom.for.NT.v3.0-TRPS Q.E.Database.Editor.v8.0.1.4-TRPS PhotoOp.v2.4-TRPS Surf.Control.for.Microsoft.Proxy.Server.v2.51a-TRPS Plascams.Plastic.Computer-Aided.Materials.Selector.v6.26-TRPS I'm getting seasick. Up and down goes TRPS quality... forget weekly, it;s almost on a daily basis. Some good, some bad. Some final, some beta. Some work, some don't.... get the PFT Surf Control. Skip the minor TurboCAD and go with the box edition released earlier. Total: 5/10 _____ ____________ ____ __________ / __/_ ___/\_ \ ___\_/ __/\ ___\_ \ \ / _/ /_ /___ / \ ___ / \___/\_____/___\ ____/______/_____/pn \_/ VERSUS: Releases: N/A Total: N/A ..._______________________.___ ____.____... ::/ _______/ ____/ | \/ | \:: _/\____ \/ /___/ | \ \: \ > \ \ \/ \ \ :\__________/\________/_________/|_____|___/ ::.. .:[ SCUM ]:. .:[SCUM]:. .:[SCUM]:. ..:: ```````````````````````````````````````````` SCUM: Releases: Silk.Realizer.v1.2.1-SCuM JDesigner.Pro.v3.01.Enterprise.Edition-SCuM ActionWorks.Process.Builder.Designer.Edition.v5.0-SCuM Sybase.Adaptive.Enterprise.Server.v11.9.2.WinNT-SCuM Another solid week... Scum gets in on the Silk series from Segue, also showing a Sybase title, and the decent JDesigner (don't confuse with JBuilder) Pro. Total: 6/10 Only one more byte to crack before... ____._____ ____ _____ _____ _ _____ __ ._____ :::_|_ / _ \/ _ \/ _ \__\_ \___| / ::/ __/_ / / / / / / _ / _ /: :/ / / / / / / / / / / / /:: :\_______\___/\____/\____/\______/________\:: : \\\\\\\ \\\\ \\\\\ \\\\\ \\\\\\ \\\\\\\\\\ -----------------------------------------wk!- 2000AD: Releases: Slick.5.2.005.For.Windows9x-NT-2000AD DM-Administrator.4.05.For.WindowsNT-2000AD DM-Manager.4.12.For.WindowsNT-2000AD Fastline.Enterprise.Final.6.29.For.WindowsNT-2000AD Fastline.Final.6.29.For.WindowsNT-2000A Fastline.Final.6.29.For.WindowsNT-2000AD BCAD99.v3.5.For.Windows9x-NT-2000AD Astra.SiteManager.2.0.13.For.Windows9x-NT-2000AD Fastline.Flyte.2.08.For.WindowsNT-2000AD Wow a new Astra SiteManager... gee it only took like two years to see a new version :P Anyways not a bad title, and it's been a long wait for users of the last version. BCAD 99 is decent, and wee see the usual web app minor version stuff, Fastline sticks out however. Total: 6/10 _______________________ ____________ __\ _______/ ______/______/__ / \ __/ / / \/ / / /_______\ /______________\____ /________\ -------------------------------\/----------- (*) F a t i g u e - Couriers Network (*) ___________________________________________. ________________________________________wK!. FATIGUED COURIERS NETWORK: Releases: Protoview_ActiveX_Component_Suite_v6.5-FCN Just one rel, a nice one, FCN wins on v6.0, and now 6.5 as well, good work guys! Total: 2/10 _____nnn_____ <$$$$$$$$$$$$$b »»»»»»»»»»»)$$ |$$$$$$$$$$$$$' |$$T```X$f''' |$$$ '$$$L |$$! '9$$$i. |$$ `'$$$$> r a d i u m »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» RADIUM Releases: Cool.Edit.Pro.v1.20.fixed-Radium MegaMix98.v3.31.Radio.Edition-Radium Cool Edit Pro is one of the more popular fairly mainstream audio apps, and while it took Radium two tries to get a working copy out, it beats what the competition has to offer. A lot of people were asking me for this, but hey, I'm a lazy ass. :) Total: 4/10 .--------------------------------. | | | ▄█ [xx/xx] ▄█ | ` ▄███ --------------- ▄███ -----' ▀██▓█ ▄ ▀▀██▀▀████▀████▀▀████▄ ██▓█ ███▄▄▄ █▓█ █▓██ ████ ██▓█ ▐████▀ ░ █▓█ █▓██ ░ ▀▀▀▀ ██▓█ ███▀ ▄█ ░ █▓█ █▓██ ░ ████ s ██▓█ ▐█▀ ▄███ █▓█ █▓██ ████ q ████▀▀▀ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀███ ▀▀▀▀▀██████ z▄▄▄▄▄▄█▀▀▀ ████ ░ ███ ▀▀▀█▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ████ ░ ███ ████ ███ ████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ VENGEANCE: Releases: TMap.1.0-VGC TMap.Data.Conversion.1.0-VGC Live.Quality.Silk.Realizer.v1.2.1-VGC TK4 goes back to Corp... (old news I forgot to mention), Lester was at least somewhat preoccupied (or so I assume) by other happenings... this helps explain VGC's lack of output the past few weeks. However, with DMS dead, and Lester taking a back seat in the newly reformed Amnesia, he should have some free time on his hands, so lets hope he spends some of it here. Silk Realizer is a dupe of Scum, which leaves VGC with two apps. Yes, I did pass grade 1 math! Total: 3/10 New this week: N/A Idle this week: PRM, VRS. Quote(s) of the Week: <ndetroit> cassseeeerrrrdddd..... stop uck-faying that chick, and come back to iiiiiirrrrrrccccccc..... Siege all the way, with a well rounded week with releases from four industry powerhouses... ok 3, with Lotus controled by IBM... so I live in the past, so what :P Speaking of which, check out that IBM testimony against M$ regarding unfair business practises as to the M$ reaction from the IBM/Lotus deal and IBM's bundling of it's systems with Lotus applications in OS2... MS is starting to get to me, especially after hearing some of this case. First they make an operating system so full of holes Tipper Gore could fit through em, then they resort dirty tactics just to keep it from sinking. I wonder... if I sued M$ for mental stress caused by their problematic software (plus system damage), would I have a hope in hell of winning? Just a thought... I do have those every so often <g>. - Bud =----------------------------------=-------------------------------------= =---------[ Lester's Movie Reviews ]----------= Sure he's a prominent scene member, leader of the #1 courier group, and former "Miss Scene 1995".. But did you also know that in real life, Lester's real name is "Roger", and he hosts a popular syndicated television show, where he plays a big fatass who has nothing better to do with his time than go to every single movie ever released? Well.. now you know.. Lester did not see any movies this week, and just stayed at home and masturbated... ......ermmm... wait... he has a new girl.... Lester did not see any movies this week, and just stayed at home and got head from his new girl... =----------------------------------=-------------------------------------= =---------[ VCD Group and Movie Reviews ]----------= VCD Group and Movie Review We would like to begin by explaining some of the common terms used in VCD releasing. These formats are: CAM - A cam is usually a handheld camera snuck into a full theatre. The base is shaky, the audio is poor, you can hear people laughing and talking. A cam is distinguishable by usually having a combination of all three or more of these flaws. Most sites nuke cams for their general poor quality. Workprint - An early release of a movie. These are usually stolen or leaked copies of movies that have made their way onto VCD from VHS or a variety of other sources. These will usually contain running time codes as well as other identifying marks used in movie production. The quality on these can vary from bad to very good depending on the quality of the source material used to encode the VCD. Note: This category is also used for very bad screeners or copies of movies that just didn't fit into any of the other categories due to defects or problems with the quality of the VCD's audio/video image. Telesync - Basically a very good Cam. A steady base such as a tripod is used, the theatre is empty or very close to empty, and the audio and video are up to par. Although, you can usually detect some flaw with a TS. You may see a random head pop up, the screen edges are noticable, or the audio isn't always crystal clear. While not perfect, the quality in general of a telesync ranges from good to very good and is usually the first type of VCD made of a new movie. Screeners - These are the top quality VCDs. They can be in either widescreen (letterbox) or in full-screen (pan and scan) with excellent audio and video. These are made from video distributors demo tapes, reviewers copies, insider copies of the film or from any number of sources. Most screeners will contain "1-800-NO-COPIES" or "Property of.." messages somewhere in the film, but it's not a requirement to fit into the screener category. These most closely resemble a VHS or LaserDisc copy of the movie. They're easily identifiable by their top quality. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ryche's Really Biased VCD Group Report #16 Man oh man, what an exciting week in VCD this was! It was just release after release aftermrelease. The movies just kept rolling in.. and blockbuster titles too! The best movies of the year and some of the best movies youve never heard of! I wish every week was like this. /ME puts the crack pipe down. Releases for the week of June 1st, 1999 to June 7th, 1999 06021999 24 Hour Woman - Screener - PMTVCD 06031999 Notting Hill - Telesync - VCD-Europe 06061999 The Thirteenth Floor - Screener - VCD-Europe 06081999 Divorcing Jack - Workprint - VCD-Europe (YAWN!) - PMTVCD - Buncha crap. Total - 2 Points - VCD-Europe - Only group really worth mentioning this week. They released Notting Hill, the romantic comedy with Julia Roberts and Divine Brown's boyfriend, Hugh Grant. He doesnt get blown in this one, but it is the alternative to Star Wars. The Thirteenth Floor is a run of the mill sci-fi movie about an alternate digital reality. It bombed at the box office, and its doing the same in VCD. Total - 4 Points Umm.. like VCD-Europe and stuff. Other groups, sucked. Someone gimme a lighter - Ryche - =----------------------------------=-------------------------------------= -----------[Dimension Division]----------- This week Dimension couriers officially split up, and ended for good. Only history will be able to determine where Dimension ranks among the best groups of alltime, but its a safe bet that dimension has its place there somewhere.... As most people already know, the group split into 2 factions, Mrpumpkin, reforming ViCE, and Caserd/Lester, reforming AMNESiA.. Here's what went down... Jaydee comes into #yield, the Dimension channel (hah, now you all know!), and basically starts cutting down a couple of dms's ... less reputed currys... Some would say it was done in a spiteful way, some would say it was humorous, some just wouldn't give 2 shits.. Basically jaydee called kruzin a big fat cheater, which would have been really insulting, if it wasn't so true... Mrpumpkin mentioned something to that effect, and all hell broke loose. Stix, bizzybone, and kruzin get mad at jaydee.. (who, afterall, was only "joking around"), and banned him. Mrpumpkin unbanned him. They banned, etc, etc, etc.. Mrpumpkin quits dms, citing the fact that "no one respects him". Things moved quickly... and one thing led to another (like most of my dates!)... mrpumpkin, in a fit of (anger..?) starts up ViCE, and takes most of the younger dms members with him... DMS is in turmoil. The seniors spring into action.. Caserd quits the group, and reforms AMNESiA. Lester takes a leadership position with him. The rest of the oldschoolers soon follow, and AMNESiA (two?) is born.. SOOOO... now it comes down to AMN vs ViCE, ViCE vs RiSC (remember bandido?!), AMN vs RiSC (remember the hate?!), AMN vs DEV (thx, jd!), ViCE vs AOD (hey, those are OUR shellboxes!) and so on, and so on, and so on... Should be interesting times ahead.... To ViCE: mrpumpkin, weeze, citizen, blitz, nailz, skimp, plush, and evel, among others.. To AMNESiA: caserd, lester, gee_money, ndetroit, xavier, bizzybone, mgd, darkfred, bud, warlord, and stix, among others.... Let the games begin! =----------------------------------=-------------------------------------= -----------[DMS vs AMN vs ViCE -- The Interviews]----------- Interview time.. We'll let the ppl speak for themselves.. Caserd vs ndetroit, June 8th, 1999. NWR: Ok.. i know who you are, as do most of the oldschoolers.. fill in the adoring masses with some history about yourself and your affiliations. Caserd: I started off in the AOL scene in about '94 went through groups such as ALLiED, FWA, SPiN, UPS etc.. then graduated to the real internet. I got into Motiv8 as a supplier which i supplied like 1 cheap util then I got into PNC as a supplier and M8 as a courier. My first sites were BBX/SWMP. Then I got to be a PNC senior and started trading heavily with no macros/proxy/cheating/even login scripts to sites - it was rough. Caserd: But i gradually started making top 10's in RCN etc.. then got into RAZOR which really set off my trading career. Then I got asked to be in AMNESiA (heh) and worked my way up from Trader to FTP Coord finally to co-Leader with my buddy Lester. As well as staying with RAZOR and joining DOD as a trader. AMN was going good for a while but then [trite] and Lester seemed to run the group without me and i quit to join Concord as a plain trader. Caserd: After that i wanted a taste of RiSC so i joined them.. they were awfully strict about how often you had to trade and shit per week so i said fuck that. Basically after RiSC i retired and have been half-assed in the scene up until this moment. Caserd: :) NWR: Alright.. your last group was dms, and you were a senior there.. dms broke up.. What the fuck happened to it? Who left, and why? Caserd: Ah..yes i forgot about DMS.. :) I was in DMS since the beginning and even helped agree on the name of the group. DMS broke up because we started letting people in too easily and from there arguements were caused between members (i'm sure you all remember glen being council after like 1 week) that sure caused a lot of rukus. Seems like Mrpumpkin left because Bizzybone/STiX/Kruzin bitched him out about unbanning Jaydee after Jaydee was talking shit about DMS and Mrpumpkin left to recreate ViCE along with other disgruntled DMS people pissed about certain people in the group... as far as who left...i'm not exactly sure. Caserd: paste a vice.nfo i guess :) Caserd: mrp/moonsabre/skimp/weeze/blitz to name a few. NWR: Why amn? why did you restart amnesia? why not just go join dev, or aod, and fade into obscurity for a bit? Caserd: Well, i had a botnote from Lester after mrp&gang left DMS telling me to call him when i got on.. so I called Lester and woke him up actually :) and we both knew that AMN would be the best choice providing that we were willing to do some hard work. People had been pumped about restarting AMN back up since it was arguably one of the best couriering groups of all time with the best people that had the best time. Why not fade into DEV? Caserd: Bunch of Damn Euros.. and as for AOD -- i liked them at first but they are a bunch of little bitches now and I've worked too hard in the courier scene to fade into obscurity.. it's simply TOO EASY to do and i am not the kind of guy who is like the rest of the crowd. NWR: Bahahahaha.. well.. nice to see you are off to such a good start with your competition.. Caserd: (hehehe) NWR: What are relations going to be like between AMN and AOD/DEV/RiSC?... AMN and RiSC hated each other with an incredible passion... DMS and AOD had mostly peace.... Caserd: We're not out to make friends, we're out to demolish the competition, which was AMN's goal a long time ago.. and it's our family motto still :) we have no allies right now.. but we may develop a couple as time goes on.. for now our friendship is within our group. We have no fights because of our 100% invite only group so everyone is satisfied with everyone in, and we have the best of time with each other. (no.. not cyber sex :D) NWR: *whew* NWR: was worried we were going to have another dev on our hands.. <g> Caserd: LOL NWR: moving right along to history..... NWR: AMNESiA *HAS* gone down in history as one of the greatest groups ever. The great "RiSC Killer", from back when RiSC dominated all... are you afraid that all this current incarnation is going to do is dilute the great AMN name? Caserd: No, we will move slowly and make sure we do things right. I'm not expecting anything to go wrong right now.. the incarnation will not dilute the name, it will just add a few more groups along side of the RiSC name :) NWR: Last time around, amn was motivated to fight against the machine that everyone called risc.. This time around, risc is nowhere to be found... what is going to motivate your group? And what is going to keep motivating them? Caserd: That's true, last time everyone ate, slept, and breathed RiSC's death, but this time we are concentrating on ourselves... slowly building up our team to the powerhouse it once was so we will have the manpower to beat groups like RiSC of the old days.. it will be a lot easier now that RiSC is in the way.. there is no group in sight of what RiSC once was, and i know that if we defeated that we can defeat anything around. Right now i think our focus aside building our team back up would be the certain group that is starting to try to act like the RiSC of old which i won't mention. A warning to them: history repeats itself, i would try to not act like RiSC did if i were you guys. NWR: ok... What about you personally..? what is going to keep you in a leadership position, say.. past summer? Caserd: Well, after the summer I will be starting college and fraternity and bullshit so i don't know exactly how much time i have.. but AMN as a whole is it's own leadership, we make no decisions without the whole group agreeing so we can basically run ourselves. i'm sure that i will still be around to help and shit though..who knows, maybe even full time :) NWR: That is certainly true... it appears as tho there will be available leaders when the time comes.... NWR: Your group seems to have all the right pieces to succeed except for one key ingrediant: active traders.. What are you going to do about active traders, and tell us about why having a lot of traders may not matter so much right now.. Caserd: Like i said, we are taking shit slowly, and by not just taking anyone we establish a better group morally. Don't get me wrong, we have had about 4-5 traders that i won't name express interest..i'm sure we could at least be top 3 on all sites right now, but they did not get the 100% yes vote. We have a few active traders right now and myself will start trading again some as will xavier/stix i hear :) who knows, maybe god will make MGD start couriering again and we will wipe everyone out in the first week :D Caserd: at least make that an nWR rumer :D NWR: i'll try to slip it in.. ;) Caserd: Well we're taking things slowly and making sure shit is done right from the ground up but if you are a courier, then by all means express interest to a member, but unloyalty is also not allowed, if someone leaves AMN, they will never be allowed to rejoin. NWR: Don't you wish more groups had policies like that? would sure cut down on the grouphoppers.. *cough*glenkruzingrind*cough* NWR: ok.. rapid fire time.. NWR: boxers or briefs? Caserd: BOXERS Caserd: MY DICK+NUTS ARE TOO BIG FOR BRIEFS NWR: classy.. NWR: knicks or pacers? Caserd: PACERS Caserd: ndetroit or lester Caserd: ND! Caserd: :) NWR: hahahahah.. NWR: proxy or screen+ftp? Caserd: screen baby NWR: coke or pepsi? Caserd: coke! Caserd: pepsi tastes like piss! NWR: WRONG!@!##!! the correct answer is JOLT!!! Caserd: BEER NWR: excellent.. NWR: alright.. that about wraps it up... NWR: You are at one of the crossroads in the scene right now.. NWR: Starting up a new group that is certain to do well... tho for how long who knows.. NWR: Is there anything you would like to say to the scene, before you embark on this path? Caserd: I'd like to thank Lester for everything he has done for me and the scene and i hope he will continue to help me out in AMNESiA which i know he will :) Caserd: Also i'd like to add that Xavier/Warlord/Lester will also be at my side in the leadership of AMN and GeeMoney/STiX/Loke are also up in this to coordinate the important shit :) and everyone who remained loyal thats in AMN, you guys are the fucking bomb.. this is going to be a hell of a grp! Caserd: And also the oldschool AMN guys, MGD/PROZAC etc. Any oldschool guy who wishes to come back to do something constructive for AMN is an automatic in that was in AMN before, (and someone in the grp totally doesnt have anything against him/her :) ) NWR: well... i guess that about wraps things up... your 15 minutes of fame are almost up... NWR: anything else you wanna say to anyone out there? Caserd: to ex-DMS guys, good luck with whatever you all do, and thanks for the great time & memories, and to my girlfriend, you give the best head babe.. (pics to come on TCA) Caserd: hehe NWR: hooray!! Caserd: and to my mom&dad THANKS FOR MAKING ME Caserd: ok im done for good ;) NWR: Caserd, its been a pleasure as always... good luck to you and your group! =-----=-----= Mrpumpkin vs ndetroit, June 8th, 1999. NWR: ok.. first things first, everyone knows who you are, but for the 10,000 newbie readers we got out there, give us a bit of history on yourself. MrPuMPkiN: k well im not much of a group hopper but some of the past affils i have had include vice/gcrack/concept/dms/origin/xforce/manifest destiny/corp/impact/nzpd/vengeance, and im current back in vice NWR: And now you are in ViCE..... doubtless, people have already heard 20 different versions of how vice has been reformed by you.. tell us what prompted its formation, straight from your own mouth.. MrPuMPk|N: well of recent times dms has not been going well, i personally put in a huge effort to turn this around. unfortunately due to the actions and spoken words of a few after a visit to the dms channel by jaydee i found it impossible to continue MrPuMPk|N: so without getting to details i left, and on the idea of a few close friends i reformed vice NWR: You obviously are not willing to name names, or get into any arguments.? ;) MrPuMPk|N: no not really, but needless to say the majority of those people have since apologised NWR: fair enough... MrPuMPk|N: and admitted their mistake MrPuMPk|N: its water under the bridge now NWR: I personally was in dms from nearly the beginning, and i recall that ever since you joined the group, you were one of its most dedicated and trusted members. You were the site co-ord, the cheerleader, and many times, the group's only active curry.. Many would consider you lester's righthand man, due to a certain amount of trust and responsibility that he gave you. Certainly this whole mess could be seen as stabbing him in the back.. what do you have to say to those who would make those claims? MrPuMPk|N: i have given my loyalty to justin since day one, and i dont really view it as backstabbing, although i am pretty sure that is what he thinks MrPuMPk|N: i couldnt do anymore for the group and the last shit with jaydee was the straw that broke the camels back MrPuMPk|N: although i think it had been building for some time MrPuMPk|N: and he knew... NWR: What did lester do to try to stop you from leaving, to keep you happy in dms? MrPuMPk|N: offered to relinquish leadership etc, i didnt really view that as a viable option as in my opinion dms had fundamental problems, that had developed into ones that i couldnt fix alone, and that i didnt receive much support from others to do either.. MrPuMPk|N: justin works a 50+ hour week i know things werent easy for him, but things just got into such a bad state really NWR: How do you think they they progressed to that point.. is it a few bad apples.. bad decisions.. poor resources? and what are you going to do to make sure that doesn't happen in ViCE? MrPuMPk|N: periodic shell problems, some lack of organisation and motivation, and yes perhaps in retrospect there were one or two people that we shouldnt have taken on. MrPuMPk|N: i have a good team in vice, well organised and a team of guys that are dedicated in helping me make the group succeed MrPuMPk|N: i want to build up a good base of resources, particularly shells, as i believe these are fundamental to a trading groups success MrPuMPk|N: im also willing , personally to put in as much time as required in the initial stages to get vice to a point where it can run itself... something that wasnt reached with dms.... NWR: Why do you think that so many of the younger/(newer) dms members left the group to follow you to vice? NWR: It looks as tho all the oldschool people went to amn, and all the pups went to ViCE.. NWR: and how are you going to cope with running such a young squad? MrPuMPk|N: you could say that, i think probably the guys that i have spent more time with and have been closer with came with me to vice.... the ones that have confidence in my ability to make vice work. i wouldnt say amn is all oldschool, it appears that have a few green guys there. MrPuMPk|N: i dont view a young squad as any problem, there is a lot of enthusiasm and ability there MrPuMPk|N: plenty to work with, and ill be doing all i can to bring it out of them NWR: You are the leader that a lot of them followed to the "promised land" NWR: What is the appeal of a group like vice? What makes it different this time around? MrPuMPk|N: well i think whats appealing is its something that is built up from scratch, and its a fresh, new challenge. MrPuMPk|N: what makes it different.... well i have always like leading from the front and i am very positive about things. i have a lot of energy and enthusiasm and its throughout the group there is a real confidence that things will work out really well. Its not going to be easy initially, but i will and have been putting in a big effort for the guys. MrPuMPk|N: its all well planned... good management and great support from everyone. Vice is a very close knit family, with guys that i respect and treasure my time being with. That kind of feeling in the team is something that wasnt present in dms, and its something i value as being key to a groups success. NWR: What about for the lean times, when its not as easy.. That is when many new groups lose their best traders to groups like AOD, DEV, and RiSC.. What will you say to your guys when things inevitably don't go as well they are going now? MrPuMPk|N: Well if traders are unhappy they will obviously look for other options, but as i said before group feeling is good, im working hard on building a great team. The guys know they can approach me at anytime and we can work any problems out. Keeping a good family atmosphere in the group is important - there is always highs and lows with every group but its the group spirit that will carry us through NWR: When many people think of ViCE, they think primarily of Bandido, and then yourself. Has Bandido spoken with you at all about the group, either publicly or privately? MrPuMPk|N uh oh NWR: a fun one.. ;D MrPuMPk|N: no I havent heard a peep out of him, which is fine by me :) ... times were quite strained heh, the only run in i have had with him so far is with him getting vices group deleted off sth, but that was pretty pathetic and easily remedied .. : MrPuMPk|N: :) NWR: This afternoon, you were either kicked from VGC, or you resigned (depending on who you get your info from!). Obviously this had political motivations, due to the fact that both you and Lester shared spots in the group. Comment on the vgc incident, and also the fact that Blitz (now a vice member) was the one that kicked you... MrPuMPk|N: well heh, once again its another case of water under the bridge imo. The whole issue was not handled well and pete admitted to his mistake. Im not bitter of it, i dont think i can really be bothered with utils groups and im sure as hell not letting what happened in vgc spill over into vice NWR: I know its still early in the life of your group, but where are you headed? does ViCE have any sites yet.. any that you have your eye on? MrPuMPk|N: Well one site that I bought with me from DMS was PR, a fine site. I have had many other offers that I am considering and we will announce another affil on sat that has been confirmed. i have some nice sites lined up <g>. NWR: ok.. lightning round... NWR: boxers or briefs? MrPuMPk|N: hahaaha MrPuMPk|N: briefs usually :) NWR: gin or vodka? MrPuMPk|N: well i have had some rough nites with both heh, gin i guess :P NWR: wheel of fortune, or jeopardy? MrPuMPk|N: wheel of fortune, always funny watching some people trying to spin the wheel :) NWR: .se or .fi? MrPuMPk|N: well... thats a tough one... .se i guess :P NWR: alright... we'll end it with that.. NWR: i know you are short on sleep, as you've been a busy man for the past few days.. MrPuMPk|N: well i just woke up froma couple of hrs ;) MrPuMPk|N: so ready for another slog :) NWR: Now that you are on the brink of a potentially historic eve, restarting ViCE, is there anything that you want to say to the scene, or anyone in general? MrPuMPk|N: not really, i think the day dms broke up was a good one for the scene... it created another group, bred fresh enthusiasm and live into the trading scene, and added a bit more controversy... so its all good :) MrPuMPk|N: i just hope that all the groups work together NWR: agreed... NWR: Any other greets, shouts, or flames? MrPuMPk|N: yeah hi to all of vice... and greets to all my supporters, the events of the last few days has made me realise who my true scene friends are and i lub you all :) NWR: cool... thank you for your time... go get some sleep, bloody kiwi! ;p =----------------------------------=-------------------------------------= -----------[The Scene News]----------- All the news thats fit to print... and then some... -Well jesus... a bit of a busy week, eh? Ok motherfuckers, you've heard the rumors, you've laughed at the quotes, now (as usual), yours truly will cut through the bullshit, and lay it all on the line for ya's.. -So DMS broke up, splitting into amn and vice factions.. that much you can read about in the article this issue. The real story? Mrpumpkin was planning the return of ViCE for months.. i heard as much from a vice senior.. He was basically waiting for the right opportunity to quit as a martyr, and take some good young talent with him for the ride... To each his own.. -So ViCE is looking good.. I give them a good couple months of domination before the wheels come off.. But.. who's to say one way or another? Oh wait... i'm sky... i'm to say.. -Some sites you can check out: ppgr.webjump.com : Prozac's page!!!! a lot of good gear... many of today's popular reports, and an NWR archive that is practically 0 second.. ;) tca.phatchicks.com : Thank god he finally updated his page, so i have some- where to steal news from... ;p union.jaded.net : unions's goddamn page.. used to be good.. now it sucks, never fucking updated.. www.defacto2.net : fucking AMAZING archives maintained by the founders of the old defacto mags.. an *almost* perfect archive.. almost, i said... you know what they're missing.. ;p www.socalsys.com : need shells, bounces, vhosts, web space?... these dudes are scene-friendly, and got some decent deals... only reason why i mention is cause the dude was fat enough to hook up nd up with some action... *cough*... HAHAHAH! www.isonews.com : wtf do i know about ISO's?... this guy has a nice page with a decent layout... check that shit out... www.xxxparadiso.com : uhh.... heh...heh... uhh... heh... free porn... mgd and tc run the site.... heh... free porn... i like to look at naked girls.. they have nice boobies. -group moves: (jesus.. where to start?!?) caserd, lester, gee_money, ndetroit, xavier, bizzybone, mgd, darkfred, bud, and warlord to AMNESiA; mrpumpkin, weeze, citizen, blitz, nailz, skimp, plush, and evel to ViCE; mrpumpkin, evel, leftist, and baseclw leave/kicked from VGC, dthangel quits AOD, and glen leaves risc.. again.. -I guess glen got turned down for amn membership, and has since retired from risc, and the rest of the scene... good luck to him, i guess, tho he will soon be vacationing in canada, and will be back into the scene soon enough. -In utils news this week, blitz kicked mrpumpkin from vgc... and then things go uglier than glen's mom at a dev convention.. Evel quit vgc, and leftist and baseclw followed after him. Now vgc is down to a lean/mean core group, or so they say.. Time will tell whether or not they will make it in the long run.. -ndetroit gave up drinking for 1 whole week.. and blitz continued to *cough* uhhh.. fraternize with.. *cough*.. young girls... -Is the MFD/VGC connection dead?... doesn't look good.. Vengeance could sure use some direction... or a shot in the arm.. or something, right about now.. -sky masterson =----------------------------------=----------------------------------------= --------[Stories from the Watercooler]---------- Ahh yes, rumors. We all love them, even though we love to say how much we hate them when they are about us- and these are some of the better ones circulating around this week. Email us or find us on irc if you have a good rumor you'd like entered, (your name will not be included), and we do not add rumors like "Tdpriest is having anal sex with Fusion" because we know that Fusion is only having sex with Xtremist and therefore there is no hard evidence of that rumor. So, if you have real rumors, let us know. Let's begin! -Rumor has it that mgd is being prodded into making a comeback with the rest of the new AMN crew... wouldn't THAT be scary? -Rumor has it that MnM and AoD are set to merge, keeping the prestigious (and trendy!) MiLLENiUM name. -Rumor has it that ... mandrake.... may come back to rox0r with AMN as well?... i'll wait til EMP comes back for that one.. ;p =-------------------------------------=--------------------------------------= Well friends.. Thats about it. If you've read this far, we sincerly thank you. We like to know this thing gets read, so if you get the time, drop one of us a quick msg, and tell us what you think, give us suggestions, tell us it sucks, or just say "hi" to us!.... Greets fly out to: jaydee, mgd, stix, tdp, hr, eci, jamili, raptor, skill, mandrake, zeus, speedy, subzero, superfly@okcomputer, wu-dave, dee, sj, bud, prozac, bernis, paledeth, duranged, tech+his crew, Kusa, ssava, CRC 97, acidapple, and all the rest of you that we love... Find us on IRC in #nwr, (channel commands: !nwr, !nwr 23 or whatever issue you want. www.netmonkey.org Support NWR and email your weektops to: [email protected] Thank you! take care.. peace. -ndetroit + lester. NWR 6/8/98
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