PC Meeting IRC log   by Phrozen Crew (PC)

Session Start: Sat Jun 09 06:36:04 2001 <rotaderP> can we begin the meeting plz ;) > Ginger <PowerLord> ok pppl can we please start <tHATDUDE-> ok, lets start <rotaderP> great <Ramona> ☻ ok folks settle in for the long haul > (MSG:ramona) shut up. :) *** Ignore is OFF <tHATDUDE-> heh, hopefully it wont that long ;) <c00ljim> just cya bro <c00ljim> hehehe <tHATDUDE-> take that long ;) > we're all fired? meeting's over! <Neeeta> hehe <tHATDUDE-> ok, lets start with cj, got any issues to bring up? <Neeeta> just you db ;p <c00ljim> lol why me ? <c00ljim> shit <HaCkEr^Uk> one thing i want to start with is OP sex... LOL <HaCkEr^Uk> sorry <DRinfoTHV> u cuteest cj <c00ljim> ok peeps heres the first thing haunting everyone <Neeeta> k <c00ljim> its the general idleness of a lot of the groups members tHATDUDE- not in #pc-meeting userlist. ☻Whois☻: ♥1 tHATDUDE- ♥is [email protected] ♥1 tHATDUDE- ♥is on @#pc-meeting <c00ljim> do we need to set a standard for doing things ? <HaCkEr^Uk> mm <Neeeta> I know cracking and testing does ... but dunno about other div's <c00ljim> and if so what would it be ? <rotaderP> previous meetings stated we shouldn't; but council would watch for idlers <HaCkEr^Uk> well all i can say is after college + Exams u got me back <c00ljim> watching for idlers does no good <rotaderP> while some ppl have serious reasons for idleness or partial idleness <DRinfoTHV> well maybe people who are not busy could offer to help in other areas and get a response for once <HaCkEr^Uk> i am working on Office XP right now <c00ljim> we understanding of rl situations <c00ljim> they r temporary for the most part <Neeeta> yes <rotaderP> cj, watching as in: talk to them, ask them if they think they can go on <DemonNite> i'm with HaCkEr it's finals time for me so my rls will be slow :-( <Genesis`> well i isaid onthe bbs, each divions must operate unde rit own 'conditions' as long as a meber is satisfing his diviosn head and/or the preze, that is sifficent <An[a]RcHy> my school ends in 1 week...next week is finals then ill be here more <c00ljim> im not pointing fingers <Neeeta> I agree w/gen ... it's up to the div head(s) to decide what's idle and what's active <c00ljim> this is general discussion <HaCkEr^Uk> 3 weeks for me <Genesis`> yeah <_|hpr0m|_> I am very involved @ work currently ...thats not better than school stuff :/ <rotaderP> cj, ofcourse. <Genesis`> shees <HaCkEr^Uk> i do agree but also in my view stuff is harder to crack or i lost my Zen <Genesis`> -v eveone <DRinfoTHV> everytime i offer to help out if im slow i get no response <c00ljim> doc your always slow * rotaderP says: what about +o tD -v everyone. tD gives +v to those who should speak <Neeeta> doc, I got a coupla jobs for you <c00ljim> hehehe <Genesis`> :) <rotaderP> with +m <DemonNite> well i just want you all to know that sooner or later i will have a linux server up so if PC needs some space or services let me know so i can get HD's <HaCkEr^Uk> CJ: i do agree but also in my view stuff is harder to crack or i lost my Zen *** _|hpr0m|_ sets mode: +m <_|hpr0m|_> sbdy do the rest? <_|hpr0m|_> heeh <HaCkEr^Uk> CJ: i cracked all of MS Trial 2000 srtuff.... but XP is takeing more time.. <c00ljim> HaCkEr^Uk nothing personnel but why bother ? <c00ljim> theres a million keys cracks whatever for it altrready <HaCkEr^Uk> c00ljim, because when i crack it lots of people will want it > -[ c00ljim ]- new xp protection will force users to register with MS. <Neeeta> they're quickly becoming obsolete cj <c00ljim> its already done though <HaCkEr^Uk> i think ur wrong. for the UK office xp yes.... <HaCkEr^Uk> DB is right > XPKeygen! <Neeeta> cuz my MS site is already *outdated* <HaCkEr^Uk> no can not keygen <HaCkEr^Uk> well i can not <PowerLord> I don't think this is the time & place to decide what cracker should/should not crack ppl <HaCkEr^Uk> to complex.. <Genesis`> :) <rotaderP> let's move on to the next topic <HaCkEr^Uk> lol <c00ljim> HaCkEr^Uk instead of 1 2 3 months on 1 app u could prolly do dozens of smaller ones <Neeeta> pl, agreed <rotaderP> but first draw some conclusions fast.. <Neeeta> cj, hack ... next topic <Neeeta> plz <c00ljim> ok whos moderating ? <c00ljim> everybody ? <rotaderP> I think tD <HaCkEr^Uk> c00ljim, like i said b4, i think smaller apps are getting harder <tHATDUDE-> ok, cj. so what is the conclusion? <Genesis`> ? <An[a]RcHy> who got voted? <c00ljim> then let him move the topic on <Genesis`> i though ther was a vote? <_|hpr0m|_> yes there was a vote... <rotaderP> ok <c00ljim> tHATDUDE- is the moderator i was being a smart ass <rotaderP> - how do we settle this idleness thing? ->> limits: NO, council watch: NO - other options: are there any? <Genesis`> Persoanly i dotnthink anyoeout side of a person diviosn shoudl try toact as judge and jury <c00ljim> who said no to limits ? <c00ljim> i am in favor of having limits <Neeeta> I'm not <DRinfoTHV> speak to the member and find out whats up first then kill him if hes still idle <_|hpr0m|_> me also <rotaderP> cj, previous meetings + ppl who have their reasons like examns <c00ljim> each division head has to set a limit <Neeeta> mainly b/c I do more than just test ... and I don't like ppl telling me that I'm not doing enough for PC <rotaderP> what about: limits + council watching > last council meeting we discussed a 90 "probation" after that , they get contacted by a senior member and asked about situation. if no reply or further inactivity, they're up for the boot. <_|hpr0m|_> there's always stuff like exams, etc <rotaderP> that's quite a standard/working thing. > 90 day. <Genesis`> eachdicions has differnt work and differnt priorties <DRinfoTHV> i agree with gen <c00ljim> the work that you do outside of your prspective division is and always will be considered <An[a]RcHy> i like the 'probation' idea instead of just a boot goodbye <Genesis`> ♥0,15 ♥0,15[♥1,15d♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15b♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15C♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15o♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15o♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15p♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15e♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15r♥14,15] ♥ so what happned with th inthe cas eof weeboy??? seems liek it wasforggoten <DemonNite> i have been meaning to ask what does council consider to be inactive? like not on IRC or no rls's or what? <_|hpr0m|_> An[a]RcHy: good idea > he put us all at risk. <c00ljim> can we talk on 1 thinhg please gen <Neeeta> cj, and what division(s) am I in? =p <rotaderP> some people just permanently can't reach a certain limit.. depending on kind of job/school or a combination <DRinfoTHV> or in my case i had leave from my division head and got fired anyway <DRinfoTHV> eh!! <c00ljim> pred dont you think that would be takin into conmsideration ? <DRinfoTHV> get organized thats first <rotaderP> i can't tell yet as we don't work with limits right now =) <c00ljim> Neeeta you r in the "group" divisionm <Genesis`> ♥0,15 ♥0,15[♥1,15D♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15R♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15i♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15n♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15f♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15o♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15T♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15H♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15V♥14,15] ♥ right > weedboy tested 75 cracks in 5 years. and was not contributing to anything other than his own motives. <rotaderP> so limits it will be? great.. *Next* :=) <HaCkEr^Uk> <dbCooper> LOL <c00ljim> stop moving the topic along <DRinfoTHV> this is happening again the proposal s should be thought out and posted on webnotes for a vote <Neeeta> as much as I love weedboy, I have to agree ... he only did a few offside things, that's it <tHATDUDE-> hmmm... this moderator thing isnt going to work unless next time the moderator gets a list of topics ahead of time <c00ljim> consider this a live bbs <Neeeta> BRB - PHONE! =p <c00ljim> tHATDUDE- i postred a few ideas <DRinfoTHV> td true dat <Genesis`> 1- we are aware that rrequirement for a cracker are much more strigent that any other divions <PowerLord> lets face it ppl if TUC don't produce the # of cracks he does PC will almost not relaese any cracks <c00ljim> nobody bothered to respond to my bbs postings <Genesis`> 2- crackerss cannot set the requirement of other divisions <HaCkEr^Uk> does know one agree that software is getting harder to crack? <Genesis`> this HAS bee the problem :) <SavaGe_> maybe everyone should send some topics he want to discuss to the moderator before the meeting starts <An[a]RcHy> PowerLord sadly true > -[ HaCkEr^Uk ]- that's why I quit cracking. :) <DemonNite> I aggree softare is alot harder to crack now > if you called it cracking. <DRinfoTHV> isnt it apparent that each division head is busy with their division and each division should be a bit autonomous <DemonNite> and getting harder everyday <c00ljim> everybody agrees software is gettin harder u satidfied ? <DemonNite> damn aspack <DRinfoTHV> isnt it apparent that each division head is busy with their division and each division should be a bit autonomous <HaCkEr^Uk> well guys as u always know keep PC update with Macromedia <Genesis`> gettinworse tto ;) <DemonNite> but i still get rls's out <HaCkEr^Uk> <dbCooper> yer small apps.. can be very complex <rotaderP> read tutorials... if you crack, you'll have to learn your ass off - keep up with it <DemonNite> i try my hardest <PowerLord> well if TUC can do do 40 cracks a month I think any carcker can do at least 5 <HaCkEr^Uk> PowerLord, there is cracks and cracks <PowerLord> then we can be "up there" with the nombers <rotaderP> depends on the kind of targets <PowerLord> gimme a sec here please ppl <DemonNite> that too <tHATDUDE-> i think the best method is to leave the idleness discretion to the council heads <HaCkEr^Uk> patch`s are easy but as TUC will say... he keeps away from big apps like Macromedia <torkel> whelp. I can do 5 cracks a month, and im not a cracker! <PowerLord> I think it's a matter of commitment from the carckors side > -[ PowerLord ]- agreed <DemonNite> i do close to 20 a month <tHATDUDE-> 5 cracks is not an accurate enough assessment. The quality of the cracks is not accounted for <SavaGe_> i have my standards, i usually go for a keygen <rotaderP> patches aren't nescessarily easy... no 2 targets are the same.. but, i don't think this is the issue here is it ;> <DemonNite> i'm still rusty at keygens <An[a]RcHy> tHATDUDE- agreed...both statements <PowerLord> -[☻ tHATDUDE- ☻]- agreed but some ppl don't relaese any <DemonNite> i want to learn to code asm someday :-) <SavaGe_> -[ ☻DemonNite☻ ]- if you need help, tell me :) <c00ljim> tHATDUDE- ok the way i see it this is the resolve : each division sets his own standards for the prospectivwe members in thier division, if other division council have issues they take it up with there selves <HaCkEr^Uk> tHATDUDE, yes i agree... i can spend a weekend on Macromedia... <tHATDUDE-> PL: those that dont release any are easy to judge then eh? <_|hpr0m|_> DemonNite: ask sav for help :o) <HaCkEr^Uk> its all down to what type of cracker you are <DRinfoTHV> cj i vote for that <tHATDUDE-> Yes, each division will set their own standards <c00ljim> or want to be <DemonNite> Savage will do i could probably use some instruction <PowerLord> -[☻ tHATDUDE- ☻]- yip <Genesis`> ♥0,15 ♥0,15[♥1,15c♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,150♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,150♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15l♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15j♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15i♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15m♥14,15] ♥ that is they wayis alwasy been tho.. > it's all down to what type ▼person▼ you are, IMO <rotaderP> -so- <tHATDUDE-> and clearly, the most strict division will be the cracking division <Genesis`> prob has bee ppl steppin gbeyond that <tHATDUDE-> since we all know TUC is a stiffy. <rotaderP> limits for cracking division have to take into account the 'type of cracks' the cracker produces <tHATDUDE-> Mr. Demanding ;) <rotaderP> this is something for cracking council to work on we can move on now ;) <tHATDUDE-> yeah, the cracking council has more than enough ability to 'weigh' cracks <teraphy> DemonNite: check out www.linuxassembly.org :) > next topic : recruiting without a crackme. <torkel> tHATDUDE- a keygen is a keygen <HaCkEr^Uk> well dudes, for a long time now i always cracked big names like Macromedia and Microsoft etc etc its jus the way i am <DRinfoTHV> how much does yercrack weigh <tHATDUDE-> granted, go for it db. <tHATDUDE-> tork: no. some keygens can be cut and pasted, others can take weeks of work <c00ljim> if a cracker cant crack the crack me does that make him not a cracker ? <Genesis`> recruiting C RACKER without a crackme <rotaderP> right, crackme -> if one can crack the crackme, he's elite and is a great member.. there ;) done ;) > I nominte Arcaine for cracker trial. New blood. > but we don't have a crackme. <rotaderP> NO NO <rotaderP> not arcane <rotaderP> he's a thief <c00ljim> yes we dpo <c00ljim> we have a new crackme <c00ljim> xl released it <torkel> tHATDUDE- but those that make the quality different? <Neeeta> whoa <Genesis`> isn the the guy that stole hardsdisk? <DRinfoTHV> db do we have atrial member in our div? <Neeeta> wate a minute <HaCkEr^Uk> tHATDUDE, i agree.... unless your a true cracker... no one knows how long it takes for make a patch or keygen <rotaderP> crackme is nearly finished .. it takes a lot of work as it has to be perfect in all ways <torkel> does * PowerLord vote agianst acrcane too > -[ DRinfoTHV ]- yes <rotaderP> it's finished?? <An[a]RcHy> who he did? <DRinfoTHV> whom > -[ DRinfoTHV ]- trevil <Neeeta> ♥4[NOTICE]♥ drop the arcane thing plz <rotaderP> why didn't anyone inform me :/ <_|hpr0m|_> cj: it's finished? <DRinfoTHV> and? <DRinfoTHV> hows he doing? <c00ljim> far i i knew it was > -[ DRinfoTHV ]- he's a posting f00l. :) <tHATDUDE-> tork: yes ;) <^FurY^> when i was with cia, arcane joined at the same time, cracked 3 progs and then didnt do anything for months and was dropped but there may have been a reason for his idleness <DRinfoTHV> lets make him a memberthen <PowerLord> NO ☻Whois☻: ♥1 Trevil ♥is [email protected] ♥1 Trevil ♥is on @#Stange #cracking.no <c00ljim> we re not here for new member nominations please <Neeeta> WAit guys! <Neeeta> dammit <Neeeta> lemme get off the phone <rotaderP> ☻conclusions so far☻: we've been talking about the limits -> council looks at the type of cracker and his/her cracks | crackme: if cracker does it, he's PC mem.. if he can't, council will have to check him out | *next* =) > (MSG:trevil) join me in #dbCooper <An[a]RcHy> you guys i think doc is talking about trev not arc <rotaderP> --- everyone talks through eachother this is not going well <Genesis`> its goin fine -- yer just too new ;)):) <c00ljim> do we need to -v everyone ? <rotaderP> re: arcane: he's a thief, I do not want him in PC. I booted him from Faith2k and he was booted from CiA. it was all proven and guilty <tHATDUDE-> member nominations should be brought to respective council heads, not in here <Genesis`> smoothest meetin gweve had in years :):) * Genesis` secodns tHATDUDE- <HaCkEr^Uk> rotaderP, thief? <rotaderP> gen =P <tHATDUDE-> the issue here is the crackme. * PowerLord thirds <c00ljim> didnt i just say that ? <tHATDUDE-> that issue is also simple *** kimuBUSY sets mode: -v kimuBUSY * An[a]RcHy agrees with tD <tHATDUDE-> if they can crack that monster, its easy membership <rotaderP> tD true but if it wouldv'e gone like that we might've had a thief inhere as i wouldn't have heard about the arcane thing =) <Neeeta> wait pred, dammit to fuck <_|hpr0m|_> lol <c00ljim> why do we need a coder or a tester deciding who can or cant be a cracker and by what standards <tHATDUDE-> its up to the council heads to get feedback about potential members <c00ljim> Neeeta hang up <c00ljim> hehehe <HaCkEr^Uk> Sav, remember that guy who ripped a Keygen for CORE... nick name with Pon? are something <rotaderP> lol <Neeeta> ARRRRRRRRRRRGH <SavaGe_> -[ ☻HaCkEr^Uk☻ ]- that was sandworm <rotaderP> this is madd0rness ;> <Neeeta> ok <Neeeta> fuck <Neeeta> ok <HaCkEr^Uk> SavaGe... aaaa yes <c00ljim> ok <tHATDUDE-> second note about the crackme. If you know of a cracker that has potential, refer them to a council head <c00ljim> Neeeta yes <HaCkEr^Uk> SavaGe, someone said he was a good cracker.... <Neeeta> re: Arcane, he didn't steal that crack <tHATDUDE-> they can still go through the usual trial period to get in <Neeeta> he used same patch generator or some shit <Neeeta> whatever it is you guys use <tHATDUDE-> nita: thats not the issue right now > (MSG:Neeeta) sorry I brought it up. *** Ignore is OFF <SavaGe_> -[ ☻HaCkEr^Uk☻ ]- i think he has great potential, but he shouldnt have ripped it <Neeeta> well, I'm tired ppl saying shit like that * rotaderP thinks, hard, and remembers: crackme was supposed to be the 'gate' to pc membership for crackers <DRinfoTHV> db whats the trial period for trevil? <Neeeta> I stand up for my friends, and he IS my friend <rotaderP> nita, arcane / ex faith2k and ex cia == thief <HaCkEr^Uk> right dudes.... i am off..... talk 2 u later... <rotaderP> proven, i saw it with my own eyes.. i'm not crazy <tHATDUDE-> pred: it is <Neeeta> dammit, he is NOT <DRinfoTHV> huk cya m8 <rotaderP> if we are talking about the same arcane <tHATDUDE-> but, if it were the only gateway... it'd be hard to find anyone *** Quits: HaCkEr^Uk (Spank the Girls... Mo hahah) <c00ljim> stop it <torkel> Im off too... <c00ljim> were not talking about thief not thief friend not friend <rotaderP> ok then chose not to believe me <rotaderP> choose <An[a]RcHy> thank you cj <An[a]RcHy> cya torkel <tHATDUDE-> please, lets not make me -o everyone <Neeeta> well, I don't stand up for TOO many ppl ... but when I do, I would think it would mean soemthing to you guys <kimuBUSY> cya torkel <c00ljim> and why were even discussing the crackme is beyond me <torkel> tell me when there is a serious meeting <rotaderP> ask arcane to crack something and he won't be able to unless there's another crack out already <DRinfoTHV> shit <Neeeta> rotaderP, I have plenty of shit that HE himself cracked for me personally <rotaderP> nita, it does - dont get me wrong - but not on this one <PowerLord> lets stick to the aganda please <DRinfoTHV> fight later *** tHATDUDE- sets mode: -oooo ^FurY^ _|hpr0m|_ An[a]RcHy c00ljim *** tHATDUDE- was kicked by Poway (Mass deop. Go sit in a corner.☼) *** Ramona sets mode: +o c00ljim *** tHATDUDE- ([email protected]) has joined #PC-meeting *** dbCooper sets mode: -oo Poway Ramona <torkel> heh *** dbCooper sets mode: +o tHATDUDE- #pc-meeting created on Fri Jun 08 16:27:17 <rotaderP> heh *** rotaderP sets mode: -oooo c00ljim dbCooper DemonNite DRinfoTHV *** rotaderP sets mode: -oooo embla Genesis` kimuBUSY Neeeta *** rotaderP sets mode: -oooo PowerLord Prvtctzn SavaGe_ teraphy *** rotaderP sets mode: -oo torkel TUC *** rotaderP sets mode: -o rotaderP <tHATDUDE-> ok. > woof ♥1 #pc-meeting ♥is moderated♥1+m♥ ☻(voice ♥1+v♥ required)☻ <tHATDUDE-> pred: do you have any issues to bring up? > mmmmm ♥1 #pc-meeting ♥is moderated♥1+m♥ ☻(voice ♥1+v♥ required)☻ <tHATDUDE-> if you do, explain it fully, then -m to let others discuss *** tHATDUDE- sets mode: +v rotaderP *** c00ljim ([email protected]) has left #pc-meeting <rotaderP> right. i do have my topics. <rotaderP> i'll proceed quickly <rotaderP> - re: idleness -> council sets limit, looking at personal situation + style of cracker etc. <-- topic solved <rotaderP> - re: crackme -> should be the gate for crackers to join PC as it's a hard target and PC = elite <rotaderP> - re: arcane -> let's say, he should try the crackme.. noone has to believe me just because i say so, let's see his results <rotaderP> i'm done, -m is fine now *** tHATDUDE- sets mode: -m <tHATDUDE-> sheesh, i hate doing this +m shit <Neeeta> fine <_|hpr0m|_> hehe <Neeeta> but IF he passes the crackme <rotaderP> it seems to work, everyone can have his/her say now <tHATDUDE-> but we need some sort of control people... stay calm ;P <Neeeta> then will ppl stop bitching to me? <Neeeta> he's a good cracker and a decent guy .. and I'd like to see him cracking for us <rotaderP> nita, if he passes the crackme i apologize loudly <rotaderP> i swear <Neeeta> I take up for you guys when ppl badmouth you <Neeeta> b/c you are my friends, and I love you all <Neeeta> ok > don't tell me, ▼show me <Neeeta> fine by me * An[a]RcHy hugs Neeta <Neeeta> db ;p <rotaderP> seems fine to me <Genesis`> heh that was when i was in f2k for a whiel, wasnt it pred?? <SavaGe_> -[ ☻rotaderP☻ ]- if someone fails at the crackme, he should be able to get a trial tho. <rotaderP> -- conclusion: arcane will do the crackme > I have Scotch Tape and I'm not afraid to use it. <rotaderP> gen, i think so yes ;) > -[ rotaderP ]- that's fair enough. <rotaderP> savage, true <Genesis`> i recall a bit of that <DRinfoTHV> ♥4[NOTICE]♥ DCC Chat (66.108.52.189) <rotaderP> great <tHATDUDE-> ok, next topic? <Neeeta> may I propose a topic? <An[a]RcHy> Genesis` not trying to stomp on anyone's toes but can we try to stick to the topics? ;> <rotaderP> -v rotaderp +m +v someone ;) <rotaderP> +v neeeta <_|hpr0m|_> yeah <_|hpr0m|_> +v nita or sbdy other * rotaderP thinks this system can work <tHATDUDE-> go ahead nita <tHATDUDE-> i will not +m unless i have to <rotaderP> fair <Neeeta> Ok ... whoever has control/access to the PC website needs to UPDATE the hell out of it. Seriously folks, this is making a very poor public image for us. * ^FurY^ was wondering about that > DV? <Neeeta> there was talk of L33t getting access and helping * SavaGe_ too <Neeeta> but I have hear nothing else <An[a]RcHy> i agree 110% on that one <Neeeta> and I haven't see hide nor hair of Hannibal lately <DemonNite> i could help with the site too <Neeeta> much less ALIVE <tHATDUDE-> this was discussed in a previous meeting... dav was supposed to do something <_|hpr0m|_> I agree also <Prvtctzn> I have some info on that <Neeeta> if Dav needs a helper, I know several PC mems will and able to help <rotaderP> everyone will agree, but someone will have to take the responsibility of checking it all out and putting those who are responsible to work <Neeeta> we NEED to get the site updated <DRinfoTHV> HAnnibal is moving to a new house <Neeeta> rotaderP, I'll be more than happy to do that <DRinfoTHV> he be back <Neeeta> DRinfoTHV, ok, thanks <kimuBUSY> www.phrozencrew.org is on hanni's box, right? he's coming back soooon <An[a]RcHy> Prvtctzn shoot away.... <Neeeta> yes <Prvtctzn> I'll handle that issue and that it is taken care of <rotaderP> nita, sounds good i know you are a girl of your word ;=) <Neeeta> cool <Neeeta> pred ;) <_|hpr0m|_> Nita as the website updater? :o) <rotaderP> perhaps Prvtctzn and nita can work together and come to a solution. <_|hpr0m|_> vote for it? <Neeeta> it doesn't have to be me ... I'd rather someone else get a shot at it if they want it > MistressOfHTML.com <Neeeta> lol <_|hpr0m|_> hehe <Neeeta> just as long as it gets done =) <kimuBUSY> yes <^FurY^> agreed * PowerLord votes for Neeeta * _|hpr0m|_ also <An[a]RcHy> agree > -[ Prvtctzn ]- <-- said he would deal with it? <rotaderP> nita, then Prvtctzn can do it as he says so himself * An[a]RcHy also <rotaderP> ☻prvtctzn will do website, right tD; drag en drop support van nfo-files <rotaderP> erm <rotaderP> ignore that part behind the ';' as it's a ctrl-paste =) <Prvtctzn> actually, all I need is a contirbutor, DV said to just send him the updates, l33t was going to, but hasn't yet <Neeeta> heh <Neeeta> ok <Neeeta> I can do dat <DRinfoTHV> someone doit and fast its 32 years out of date <Genesis`> next? <Neeeta> or anyone of us <Prvtctzn> k <DRinfoTHV> 2 or 3 <kimuBUSY> also true. DV's still travelling? <Neeeta> anyone needing dav's addy, msg me <Prvtctzn> yes <PowerLord> -[☻ kimuBUSY ☻]- yes <Prvtctzn> next topic > neet I have his FAX number. :) > doh <Neeeta> yes, I tried his cell phone the other day ... prolly had it turned off <rotaderP> ok good upto now things are going very fine i think... let's proceed with the next person who would like to say something, ok? <Genesis`> tHATDUDE-? <Neeeta> hehe * dbCooper would. <tHATDUDE-> ok, so its decided <tHATDUDE-> next topic <Neeeta> db ;p <tHATDUDE-> tuc? *** Ignore is OFF <Genesis`> ? <DRinfoTHV> Neeeta :+) <_|hpr0m|_> hehe <Genesis`> ♥0,15 ♥0,15[♥1,15t♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15H♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15A♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15T♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15D♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15U♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15D♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15E♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15-♥14,15] ♥ <rotaderP> i think genesis would like to talk ;) <Genesis`> :) <Neeeta> Planet Earth calling TUC ... c'in TUC ... <tHATDUDE-> last call for TUC, else gen goes? <TUC> Hmmm <Neeeta> c'min, even <_|hpr0m|_> oh TUC is there :o) * rotaderP brb need a smoke. *log on*. > <-- smoke break also. <teraphy> rotaderP: use snuff <TUC> Welp, its easy... if you ALL do what you can do... PC may survive, if not, we're done. <Neeeta> db, thought you quit? ;p *** cee_jay ([email protected]) has joined #pc-meeting <Genesis`> ♥0,15 ♥0,15[♥1,15d♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15b♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15C♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15o♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15o♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15p♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15e♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15r♥14,15] ♥ /////!!!!!!||||||| <An[a]RcHy> cought break *cough* <Genesis`> no smoke! * DemonNite just quit 6 weeks clean <Neeeta> TUC, I agree <Neeeta> DemonNite, congrats =) <Genesis`> Server Lag: 6.802secs * PowerLord wants a opertunity to speak too <An[a]RcHy> TUC i also <cee_jay> i need the floor for a minute please <Neeeta> wb cj btw <DemonNite> yep <cee_jay> torkel go ahead <Genesis`> wut?? <Genesis`> i tough tHATDUDE- was th emoderator <cee_jay> chill out damnit <tHATDUDE-> TUC: ok... simple enough ;) <torkel> Im quitting pc because of personal reasons. <Neeeta> ack <Neeeta> =( <An[a]RcHy> :( <torkel> Thank you for the fun I had with you guys <Neeeta> I'm sorry to hear that =( <cee_jay> not as much as me <kimuBUSY> :-( > back <Neeeta> ok <teraphy> torkel: trσkigt att h÷ra.. <kimuBUSY> -[ dbCooper ]- [20:53] <torkel> Im quitting pc because of personal reasons. <cee_jay> dbCooper scroll up <An[a]RcHy> torkel im sad to see you got >:( <Neeeta> so we need shells then ... ? <An[a]RcHy> go even <cee_jay> let me handle the irc part please <Neeeta> ok <Neeeta> if you need anything, plz let us know > -[ cee_jay ]- that's your J.O.B. <cee_jay> of course <cee_jay> j o b means i do something <cee_jay> hehehe <Neeeta> torkel *hugs* good luck to you in whatever you do * Genesis` waits patiently > -[ cee_jay ]- you're council for IRC division, NO? <An[a]RcHy> good luck in life tork ill see you around hopefully *** torkel ([email protected]) has left #pc-meeting <Prvtctzn> I second Neeeta <_|hpr0m|_> brb *** Quits: _|hpr0m|_ () <PowerLord> netx issue plz > ok. I have a topic. :) <teraphy> gen, maybe? * Genesis` still waits patiently <Genesis`> damnit > ok. *** _|m0rph|_ ([email protected]) has joined #pc-meeting <Genesis`> ye sgenmaybe ;) <tHATDUDE-> gen: go for it <Genesis`> I posted a webnote to all attehbehestof certian conicl members <Genesis`> let me try to <Genesis`> type slow <Genesis`> basically <Genesis`> th eisuue is 'leave your problems at the door' <Genesis`> whish has be intrpreted to mean, 'we dotn care' <Genesis`> this attuide has casue a LOT of problems thsi year <Genesis`> ppl blwoing up fo rno apprent reason <Genesis`> becasue NOONE cared enuf to ask what is troublei them <Genesis`> (me too, justas bad a everoen else) <Genesis`> well <Genesis`> we shoudl ask <Genesis`> we MUST ask <Genesis`> when someone is out of character <Genesis`> find out why <Genesis`> dotn let thing escale out of control <Genesis`> (eg; stardogg) <Genesis`> damnit if we dotn care fo reach other, ther is NO POINT meetin together <DRinfoTHV> dialog is useful <_|m0rph|_> yes <Neeeta> I can agree with that <DRinfoTHV> but it helps to be answered and not totally ignored <DRinfoTHV> as i have been by a few members * Genesis` husg doc <DRinfoTHV> for 6 months straight <DRinfoTHV> im offended <DRinfoTHV> frankly > intervention. <cee_jay> well doc imho some stuff gets old <Neeeta> whoa guys <DRinfoTHV> i just want a civil hello <DRinfoTHV> no conversation > woof is hello. <Genesis`> ♥0,15 ♥0,15[♥1,15D♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15R♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15i♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15n♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15f♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15o♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15T♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15H♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15V♥14,15] ♥ dotn feel bad, I was on ignore by some council for a coupl;e weeks at least :) <Neeeta> gen and some non-council ;) * Neeeta grins > -[ Genesis` ]- and still are after the meeting. :) <DRinfoTHV> whoa isnt the answer <Neeeta> lol db <cee_jay> doc i see lots of peeps sayin heyaz to u, more often than not though you are afk * Genesis` husg doc again <DRinfoTHV> i came here for the friendship <DRinfoTHV> and my bw suks anyway <Neeeta> and you HAVE friendship <DRinfoTHV> gen ty <Neeeta> what am I .... mincemeat? ;ppp <DRinfoTHV> but i expect the simple politeness of a response <DRinfoTHV> and if i am bothering amember <DRinfoTHV> tell me why <cee_jay> Neeeta i wish, i love mincemeat * Genesis` hubahuba Neeeta <DRinfoTHV> damnit <Neeeta> lol cj * Neeeta hugs DRinfoTHV <DRinfoTHV> ok <DRinfoTHV> im done <cee_jay> ok <cee_jay> :P <^FurY^> *furry hugs doc :P* <Neeeta> feel better now? ;) <Neeeta> *hugs* <DRinfoTHV> and i love ya all <An[a]RcHy> *hugs* <Genesis`> im done too <Neeeta> good cuz I was afraid I was gonna hafta smack y0 ass in a few ;) <Neeeta> both of ya'z * tHATDUDE- gives doc a nekkid hug <Genesis`> just add my peic eto th handbook, is al i ask <Neeeta> lol <tHATDUDE-> sorry.. you asked for it ;) <^FurY^> lol > Friends are what you have, frienship is what you get! <Genesis`> ewwwwww <Genesis`> a wait <Neeeta> I want a nekkid hug dammit!!! <Genesis`> look!! tHATDUDE- has a BUMLIKEAGIRL! <Neeeta> no WAIT <Neeeta> from TD!!! <tHATDUDE-> db: and when you have naked friends... naked hugs are what you get * dbCooper hugs everyone nekkidly <Neeeta> lol * rotaderP is away, ☻autoaway☻ ▼[▼log☻:☻ON▼]▼ <rotaderP> back. <cee_jay> dbCooper just do it backwards with me ok ? <Neeeta> rotaderP, you just missed td naked =) * Genesis` humps err hugs rotaderP's back <Genesis`> next topic? <Neeeta> lol <PowerLord> next plz <tHATDUDE-> anyone have any topics left? * PowerLord does <SavaGe_> i have one too <rotaderP> i guess i missed nothing xcept for torkel leaving ;) <cee_jay> i have a general observation as well * dbCooper does <tHATDUDE-> pl: go for it > still. <PowerLord> as you all knwo I have been in PC for years <PowerLord> tand we all know things is not what it use to be * cee_jay thinks more than i can rememebr <PowerLord> I think the problem is that we lack commitment towards PC <PowerLord> if everyone is fully commted we will be the force we use to be * Neeeta agrees <PowerLord> I see very few commited ppl lately <PowerLord> everyone must go and think what we are doing here > I have been committed before and could easily be committed again. Can you say Sanitarium? <PowerLord> It's not fun anymore <PowerLord> -[☻ dbCooper ☻]- shhhttttt > k. <PowerLord> I really think if we don't shape up PC will not be around in 6 months <PowerLord> we are dying ppl <DRinfoTHV> i dont agree <rotaderP> :( <Neeeta> #pc2k is proof <rotaderP> a friend of mine died i just heard :( <DRinfoTHV> we are disorganized <PowerLord> and only if everyone pull his weight and commit to it we will sirvive <Neeeta> so many times I get "you guys are still around?" * Neeeta hugs rotaderP <Neeeta> I'm sorry hon <rotaderP> :( <DRinfoTHV> pred sorry <PowerLord> -[☻ rotaderP ☻]- sorry mate > very. <DRinfoTHV> look we all like each other <_|m0rph|_> sorry to hear that @ Pred <An[a]RcHy> sorry pred :( <SavaGe_> rotaderP :( <DRinfoTHV> lets make this day 1 <Prvtctzn> =( <DRinfoTHV> freash start <DRinfoTHV> fresh <DRinfoTHV> and rededicate <rotaderP> damn.. <teraphy> rotaderP: :( <^FurY^> ▼DRinfoTHV:☼ yea <An[a]RcHy> DRinfoTHV i agree with that <Genesis`> disorganized is nto the word to use when member are atiivly workign againts other members, thnak fully thats over <embla> sorry to hear pred <rotaderP> tnx ppl.. <DRinfoTHV> we have a good turnout and we seem to be willing <DRinfoTHV> so lets move ahead <DRinfoTHV> and kick so cracking ass <DRinfoTHV> some <Neeeta> agreed <^FurY^> w00t <DRinfoTHV> im ready <rotaderP> i'm with you all. <embla> sounds like a really good idea.. <DRinfoTHV> and im willing to helpout in any division at any time <tHATDUDE-> ok, less talking, more work ;) <PowerLord> it's easy to say, but we have promised ourselfs this before <tHATDUDE-> next topic, savage? <An[a]RcHy> nice to see some spirit around here ;D <DRinfoTHV> except i cant code or crack or spell <PowerLord> and it did not help <rotaderP> i'm damn sure i'd never give up, and i'm damn sure you all wouldn't - so let's not talk negative - let's get to work, everyone in his own 'street', and kick some serious ass <Prvtctzn> I have to leave soon here, anyone else got something? <DRinfoTHV> pl we gotta try tho <SavaGe_> * ok, how does our 0day system work?, my last keygen was a valid 0day release but 3 days later it was released by another group, if we want to make PC more populair by doing 0day releases we should have some sort of 0day system like other groups have so our releases can get out fast. <cee_jay> i do <Genesis`> yes on ethin <cee_jay> Prvtctzn but if ya gotta go go bro <Prvtctzn> SavaGe_, agree *** cee_jay is now known as c00ljim <rotaderP> let's recruit someone who is experienced with 0day + eggdrop coding <Prvtctzn> ^FurY^ is the backup to CM on that <rotaderP> and he/she makes a 0day PRE-bot <rotaderP> so the testers can pre the keygen after they are ready <Genesis`> i dont ever want to hear 'Its only irc: again.. 3 time sis enuf :) <rotaderP> then we need some 0day-sites that are officially supporting PC > a pre-bot would be cool. <PowerLord> -[☻ Genesis` ☻]- 100% agree on that <rotaderP> you pre there.. 3 or 4 sites will do <^FurY^> yes, speaking of which i haven't been able to check for anything, does anyone have the new drop pass? i couldn't get wd0g or extradurable to work <Prvtctzn> rotaderP, not enough KG rels to justify that yet <c00ljim> pred and prvt we have a good 0day sys in place we missed 1 due to unforseen circumstances <rotaderP> oh ok, if it's already fine then it's fine =) <rotaderP> too bad it didn't get released in-time, savage .. but.. with 0day, that shit just happens :/ <Prvtctzn> and we don't unfortunately rels enough kgs <c00ljim> cm and fury are doing well <SavaGe_> -[ ☻Prvtctzn☻ ]- i think i'll be releasing more keygens starting next week. <c00ljim> cm does all on mon - fri <Genesis`> and whiel i have everone here - woud; u liek to hear bout teh new req system weaz and i ar eworking on? <c00ljim> and fury pics up o n the weekends <rotaderP> gen, very nice <Prvtctzn> the drop pw is no workie <^FurY^> yup <c00ljim> we cat reach aqua <SavaGe_> nope, drop pass doesnt work <c00ljim> we cant reach aqua * dbCooper watches his topic go round and round. <rotaderP> perhaps wdog ? instead of wd0g? he may have made a typo <^FurY^> ok, i'll wait to hear somethin then <^FurY^> ▼rotaderP:☼ tried that too, no luck <PowerLord> we should move to dbCooper's drop for now I think. dbCooper ? you agree ? <Prvtctzn> db, go for it <c00ljim> try and c <An[a]RcHy> wd0g worked the other day <SavaGe_> -[ ☻c00ljim☻ ]- so if i have a release i go to you or CM? <Genesis`> ♥0,15 ♥0,15[♥1,15r♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15o♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15t♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15a♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15d♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15e♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15r♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15P♥14,15] ♥ tried all kinds include "wd0g " <c00ljim> SavaGe_ no <c00ljim> SavaGe_ cm or ^fury <SavaGe_> ok thnx for clearing that up. <Prvtctzn> IT'S DB's TURN <c00ljim> fury is not only for weekends he can pic up some slack im sure <SavaGe_> ok im done then. <^FurY^> of course, i'm more than willing to do whatever i can for the crew <c00ljim> k <Genesis`> Fo rthos ehwo remember Sags request bot/website it willbe familar inmany ways, but hopefull more powerfull <c00ljim> good onya <DRinfoTHV> db talk to us > ok. I have a desire/need to move the drop to my box. aQUa does what he can but some Euro members can't reach his box. and that's not his fault. This is something we have to do. <Prvtctzn> db <Prvtctzn> as the primary? <Neeeta> I'm all for that > I need members that are reachable. and services that are reachabl. <c00ljim> dbCooper nothing against you but i would prefer a box on a euro server that was fast <An[a]RcHy> im for it > I prefer reliable and an accessible admin. :) <Neeeta> cj, I would prefer a box on a T3 =) <Genesis`> For those who remember Sagas request bot/website it will be familar in many ways, but hopefully more powerful <c00ljim> we cant talk about 2 things at once <Prvtctzn> well, distro is db's Div so it's his call <DRinfoTHV> access is more important than spped for the drop <DRinfoTHV> files are smaller <Neeeta> agreed <DRinfoTHV> anyway <c00ljim> well where the main box is is of concern to us all > -[ c00ljim ]- if you know of someone with a blazingly fast box and time on his hands. I'd like to talk to him. <c00ljim> i dont want to spend all day downloading cracks <c00ljim> dbCooper not the point bro just a suggestion <Prvtctzn> accessability is the key here > -[ c00ljim ]- I thought you had someone in mind already. :) <c00ljim> i wish <PowerLord> I don't think the amount of cracks we release makes speed a major issue > I don't have the fastest box on the net, but I'm here everyday. <PowerLord> even with 20 cracks a day it still wount be <c00ljim> actaully i do have someone in mind <An[a]RcHy> i have an idea....not sure if it will go with any of you > -[ c00ljim ]- we'll chat later. :) <PowerLord> -[☻ c00ljim ☻]- who ? <Neeeta> Ok ... I don't care WHO it is as long as we can access it when we need to, and we can reach him/her <Prvtctzn> db, I feel it's your call to make as you see fit <c00ljim> dbCooper kewl <PowerLord> -[☻ Neeeta ☻]- agreed <_|m0rph|_> also agree to Nita <An[a]RcHy> i have root access on a t3 freebsd box located on an edu connection that is blazing fast....an i am around a lot....i can ask the box owner if he can spare some space...but i don't know if the edu part will fly with you all <c00ljim> dbCooper answer the phone > -[ An[a]RcHy ]- that puts him at risk and maybe us too. * PowerLord waits for c00ljim to call him too <PowerLord> :) > -[ c00ljim ]- it's not ringing. :) * Neeeta agrees w/db <SavaGe_> a drop that supports some sort of scripting would be nice (like glftpd) <c00ljim> cuz u set away <^FurY^> agreed You have♥1 20 ♥new message(s). ♥1<F9>♥ to read message(s) > ack. <An[a]RcHy> dbCooper he doesn't goto the school, the box is just located there <An[a]RcHy> but thats fine if it you don't want the risk <Neeeta> ana, who all would have access to this box? ☻Whois☻: ♥1 c00ljim ♥is [email protected] ♥1 c00ljim ♥is on #pc-meeting <An[a]RcHy> Neeeta if he would spare the space i'd make a drop acct for the crew, just like aqua <^FurY^> i'm sorry all but i have to split, i've ditched my friend from outta town for an hour and a half now. Later all and see you in the ops chan =) <Prvtctzn> cya ^FurY^ <Neeeta> cya fury <An[a]RcHy> not sure if he can spare the space because he's only got like an 8gb in it mostly used but its worth a shot <PowerLord> -[☻ ^FurY^ ☻]- cya <An[a]RcHy> cya ^FurY^ <SavaGe_> ok who CANT connect to aqua's drop now? <SavaGe_> (nobody can cause the pw is wrong) <PowerLord> maybe c00ljim can host the drop <Prvtctzn> w/o a pw, not me > CB for one. an important "one" <PowerLord> we have a bot in place there allready <SavaGe_> cb said he could connect again on the ubb <rotaderP> i'm afraid i have to go. will get the logs. peace.. *** Quits: rotaderP (peace.) <tHATDUDE-> quick sidenote, who is keeping a log? <An[a]RcHy> i am <tHATDUDE-> i have one if no one else does <An[a]RcHy> i log all <An[a]RcHy> if u need it <tHATDUDE-> ok, when the meeting is done, upload your log to the drop please (when we find the pw) * dbCooper is logging. <SavaGe_> -[ ☻dbCooper☻ ]- I can today connect to the drop <SavaGe_> that's what cb said <SavaGe_> not sure if he can still connect <Prvtctzn> to aqua'a? <SavaGe_> yes <An[a]RcHy> tHATDUDE- sorry i can't do that...lost win last night so i had to put 2k fresh on here <An[a]RcHy> still gotta go fix it after the meeting <Neeeta> I'm logging too <An[a]RcHy> i could dcc to some1 or better yet db/neeeta or u could <Prvtctzn> k, I gotta go too..will check logs later..db is yer site up? > I will put it back online. pass is wd0g <Prvtctzn> k, laterz ppl <Genesis`> "wd0g " ? *** Quits: Prvtctzn (Dead socket) > yeah, same as the UBB and #pc-ops. > wd0g > that's a zero <An[a]RcHy> i hate to bail also but i have to go :/ kimuBUSY not in #pc-meeting userlist. ☻Whois☻: ♥1 kimuBUSY ♥is [email protected] ♥1 kimuBUSY ♥is on #pc-meeting @#pc2k <An[a]RcHy> be back tonight hopefully <DRinfoTHV> db do u have 2 min after? <Genesis`> nekkid hugs *** An[a]RcHy ([email protected]) has left #pc-meeting <PowerLord> next topic plz > -[ DRinfoTHV ]- I do. <DRinfoTHV> ty > sure. > PBJ anyone? <PowerLord> -[☻ tHATDUDE- ☻]- can we move on pleaze <c00ljim> ??? <tHATDUDE-> are there any topics left? <c00ljim> yes <tHATDUDE-> go ahead cj <c00ljim> pc2k <c00ljim> let me compose myself <c00ljim> i want this to come out right > puh-lease <c00ljim> you all know of all the work and effort that went into not only starting this channel but maintaing it and keeping it updated <c00ljim> but the channel is fsiling miserably <c00ljim> but the channel is failing miserably <c00ljim> honestly <c00ljim> and i can really see only 2 solutions <c00ljim> one is to close phrozencrew <DRinfoTHV> u mean #phrozencrew? <c00ljim> the other is to allow more cracks to be offerd, we will never get anywhere just being a "pc" specific channel, you can find our cracks a lot of places <Genesis`> may i? <c00ljim> channels like ours that are succesful depend on the accessibiblity and availability of a crack <c00ljim> no matter who makes it <c00ljim> let me finsih please <c00ljim> if we stand by and say well we're pc and thats that, well imho we going to die in that channel, i come to a crack channel if a pc crack is avail great, but if not i dont wanna be told nope sorrry pvc didnt do thast go somepolace else well thats bad it givers a bad perception as well <c00ljim> so the question is do we close up shop and say nice try ? <c00ljim> or what ? <c00ljim> ok im done <Genesis`> ok <Genesis`> let me interject here <Genesis`> havinloived thru all th epermutations <Genesis`> :) <Genesis`> c00ljimis correctin some ways <Genesis`> pc2k will NEVER be liek pc08 <Genesis`> pc98 <c00ljim> \/me hates gens interjections * c00ljim hates gens interjections <c00ljim> hehe <c00ljim> they hurt too much <Genesis`> thsiisbecasue #cracks and #serialz and al themir cand tcl scripts didn texist ☻Whois☻: ♥1 Trevil ♥is [email protected] ♥1 Trevil ♥is on @#stange #cracking.no <PowerLord> -[☻ Genesis` ☻]- type slow please <Genesis`> al long as ppl can get what they want in th eother channs (ok PL) <Genesis`> they arnt coming to #pc2k..Ill bet ucf and other grousp are havin the same problem <c00ljim> bullshit * dbCooper coughs. <c00ljim> crack channels have survived long before pc <Genesis`> i am not sure why we votedto have a distro chanll again. <c00ljim> were not the first and we wonty be the last <Genesis`> ? <Genesis`> taylor andi created #cracks <Genesis`> ther was not channelliekit before <c00ljim> Genesis` were not giving what people want <Genesis`> nor scripts thatmad eit easy to distro <Genesis`> we are no longer unque <Genesis`> unique <c00ljim> Genesis` u missed your own point <Neeeta> sorry was on the phone ... <c00ljim> Genesis` dont you see ? <Genesis`> ? <Neeeta> and lemme just say this: I don't want us distro'ing other groups' cracks <c00ljim> wait <c00ljim> Genesis` what was cracks ? a pc only channel ? no <c00ljim> thats why it was so popular * Neeeta hates #cracks <Genesis`> my point is :you can never go home again' :) <c00ljim> lets not talk scripts or bots or none of that for the moment <c00ljim> well we cant move foward either we stagnant <Neeeta> one thing I think would help in #pc2k were voices that are awake and help ppl <Neeeta> like what me and tuc did in the early days <Neeeta> and other ppl <Genesis`> why be a voice in #pc2k , whenyu cna be an op in #cracks <Neeeta> cracks is bullshit and everybody knows it <c00ljim> irrelevant <c00ljim> both of u <Neeeta> having ops in there means nothing > close #pc2k and bring ▼our▼ fans closer to us ▼in▼ #phrozencrew <DRinfoTHV> having a cicil attitude does however <DRinfoTHV> civil <Neeeta> I think we should close #phrozencrew and move them to #pc2k <c00ljim> dbCooper close distro for irc ? <DRinfoTHV> and we can get awful impatient with newbies imho > distro in #pc <Genesis`> mor eppl in phrozencrew <c00ljim> we ??? <Neeeta> DRinfoTHV, I try not to <c00ljim> we ??? <Genesis`> only datroll ;) <DRinfoTHV> alot of us > and nita's exes. all 2 of them. :) <Genesis`> yup <Genesis`> 2? <Neeeta> db, that has been fixed <Genesis`> that whre we recruits new v's > type oh? <Neeeta> I set 15 bans for that bastard <c00ljim> we discussed distroing on pc everyone was against it * dbCooper saw , imperssive. > impressive too. <Neeeta> if he gets around that, I'll manually ban his ass and add THAT ip too! <_|m0rph|_> nita the ban lady? hehe <PowerLord> hey we drifting fo the topic here pp <PowerLord> ppl <Genesis`> ♥0,15 ♥0,15[♥1,15c♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,150♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,150♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15l♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15j♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15i♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15m♥14,15] ♥ we shodi have left well enufg alone back in '98 <Neeeta> one reason I've been so bitchy about having ops in pc2k while I'm at work <c00ljim> u see ? this is the commitment that is lacking <Neeeta> gen, yes, but we didn't know what the DMCA bill was going to bring <c00ljim> Genesis` agreed <_|m0rph|_> DMCA bill? <Genesis`> as gfor now <Genesis`> teh only thini can suggest <Genesis`> ispull all member form #cracks / #serialz <Genesis`> OR <c00ljim> u cant tell people what channels they can and cant be in <Genesis`> not bother <Genesis`> distro i mean <c00ljim> pc memes are not the only people distroing pc cracks <c00ljim> they r a minority in fact <Genesis`> i know <_|m0rph|_> brb, nat32+ needs restart *** Quits: _|m0rph|_ (brb) * Neeeta sighs <Neeeta> ok ... 2 hours of this is enough for me <Genesis`> wel we cab duscuss amongs outselve what we can do to improve situation <c00ljim> no we cant <c00ljim> thats why we r here <Genesis`> ? *** _|m0rph|_ ([email protected]) has joined #pc-meeting <DRinfoTHV> we can start by remembering we came here as friends <Neeeta> I said my piece ... I think us distro'ing cracks other than our own is a mistake ... and I *still* think we should combine #phrozencrew into #pc2k <DRinfoTHV> and lighten up on each other <Neeeta> I'm out <Neeeta> bbl <c00ljim> what does that have to do with pc2k doc <c00ljim> Neeeta ok' *** Neeeta ([email protected]) has left #pc-meeting <DRinfoTHV> it means its not nesc to try to humilatemein public maybe? <c00ljim> u know already half of us are gone from this meeting *** DRinfoTHV ([email protected]) has left #pc-meeting <PowerLord> I agree, we should not distro other ppl's cracks <c00ljim> well ok then i can take a hint as well <PowerLord> maybe we should distro in #phrozencrew ? <c00ljim> when theres no interst theres no interest <c00ljim> and that is plain enough here <Genesis`> ♥0,15 ♥0,15[♥1,15c♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,150♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,150♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15l♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15j♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15i♥14,15]♥0,15[♥1,15m♥14,15] ♥ put it to a vote <c00ljim> why bother with a vote <Genesis`> persoanlly, I doubt it willcarry <c00ljim> i see the answer <c00ljim> if they cant stick arounfd to discuss it ? <_|m0rph|_> dont say it like that cj *** Quits: DemonNite (Connection reset by peer) <c00ljim> well it s time for me then to say what i want as well Incorrect KEY entered for ♥1 #pc-ops ♥ <c00ljim> i have been considering for some time my departure from the group as well, as much as i love this group, we cant seem to see eye to eye on issues i personaaly consider relevant to the survival of pc <c00ljim> and i have never been 1 to stop the wheels of progress as it were <c00ljim> for me this looks like where i came in <c00ljim> i love you guys, and my heart and sole has always been pc <Genesis`> and thsi is becasue? <c00ljim> im not going to repeat myself <Genesis`> and thsi is becasue nitalic parted? <c00ljim> i have lots of issues and lots of thenm are not just pc some are rl health issues with me as well <c00ljim> [15:56] *** Parts: Neeeta ([email protected]) <c00ljim> [15:56] *** Parts: DRinfoTHV ([email protected]) <c00ljim> [15:57] *** Quits: DemonNite (Connection reset by peer) <c00ljim> and thats not even the point either <c00ljim> so i will make arrangements to hand over the irc division and help to assure a smooth transistionm <c00ljim> i can stay within the distro division and continue to supply support services to pc <c00ljim> i'll have some bnc s active and new vhosts as well as bots and shell for pc that will be it for me > does anyone else need to /want to quit? > yikes. <c00ljim> dbCooper i can tell of at least 2 or 3 more but because they are not in attendance i will not speak for them > k. <Genesis`> might as well shu down th ewhoel divison, after all "Its Only IRC" * dbCooper has caught wind of something in the air. <PowerLord> -[☻ Genesis` ☻]- don't start with that issue plz. <c00ljim> i ve said my peace <PowerLord> I think ppl should not have that atttatude <c00ljim> if there are no comments ? i will leave you guys to it <Genesis`> right, im otta here <Genesis`> good luck *** Genesis` ([email protected]) has left #pc-meeting > man. > when the going gets tough, people bail. <c00ljim> bull <c00ljim> dbCooper dont even with me > -[ c00ljim ]- didn't mean you., silly <c00ljim> i been breaking my balls <c00ljim> o <c00ljim> hehehe * dbCooper recognises your committment(s) <c00ljim> i knew it was going to be an explosive topic <c00ljim> i hesitated to even brong it up > meetings bring out the best in people, don't you think? <c00ljim> but it is a sore point with everyone <c00ljim> yes i do <c00ljim> or the worst <_|m0rph|_> or a combination of it <c00ljim> yes <c00ljim> its a shame more than anything else > Gen tried to bring up his "new" reqbot. and the topic of possibly shutting down a channel made him upset. <c00ljim> we laways used to be able to say or do whatever we wanted in these meetings <c00ljim> too bad for him <c00ljim> this is the way it is <c00ljim> he should have stayed and aired his concerns and or wishes > yes, it's like voting, you can't bitch if you don't vote (or stay at the meeting) *** kimuBUSY is now known as Kimusan <c00ljim> so already we are but a shell of what we were 1 hour ago <c00ljim> how do we possibly ebven go on ? > we do, as we always have. <c00ljim> tHATDUDE- how bout ? <c00ljim> tuc ? <PowerLord> the way this meeting concluded just proofes my point RE commitment <PowerLord> I drived 60km specially for this meeting <PowerLord> and have to drive that back home too <PowerLord> who is still awake here ? <PowerLord> I bet most ppl has left <c00ljim> heh > the committed ones are still here. <c00ljim> what a shame <PowerLord> 3 of us ? <_|m0rph|_> dbCooper: exclude ppls like Nitallica from that plz > k. <PowerLord> -[☻ tHATDUDE- ☻]- is not going to help <PowerLord> -[☻ _|m0rph|_ ☻]- nita & pred I will excude <c00ljim> that <c00ljim> ? <PowerLord> ooops <_|m0rph|_> yep <PowerLord> .that is not going to help <c00ljim> ok well i dont have anything more at this popint > I didn't mean to exclude anyone. <c00ljim> ok well i dont have anything more at this point * dbCooper either. * PowerLord neither <SavaGe_> /me neither <c00ljim> lol <PowerLord> weeeee <PowerLord> another awake sole <c00ljim> dbCooper can we talk tommorrow ? > sure. today if you like. > but I have to have a smoke first. * PowerLord slaps dbCooper <c00ljim> im headed out with the family shortly a night out if you will <PowerLord> no smoking dammit > smoking with a patch on. :( <PowerLord> duhhh > -[ c00ljim ]- tomorrow's good. early? * PowerLord lights a sigarette > hey! > put that out <c00ljim> sure the earlier the better > -[ c00ljim ]- I get up at 9am EST. * PowerLord was not the one who tried quiting <c00ljim> ok <c00ljim> good enough > -[ Poway ]- sure, easy for you to point fingers <PowerLord> now what time is that in gmt + 2 ?? <PowerLord> <G> > -[ PowerLord ]- sure, easy for you to point fingers <c00ljim> have yer coffe and a smoke then we can rtalk > k. <PowerLord> -[☻ dbCooper ☻]- :) <c00ljim> k done deal > 2pm GMT > -[ c00ljim ]- today or tomorrow? * c00ljim syas cyaz all and a big thanks to those that stuck it out * dbCooper is confuzled <c00ljim> tommorrow <c00ljim> sunday morning > woof <c00ljim> k <Kimusan> ......... <c00ljim> *p00f* > ------------- <Kimusan> just to be in the log *** c00ljim ([email protected]) has left #pc-meeting > -[ Kimusan ]- :P <PowerLord> I am of this channel *** PowerLord ([email protected]) has left #pc-meeting <Kimusan> there are things in the works <Kimusan> no need to air them <Kimusan> they are all nice and good <Kimusan> so you all wear your capes and be back Monday, take the weekend off lads (girsl all gone) <SavaGe_> ok meeting is done i guess, cya all <Kimusan> tis *** Quits: SavaGe_ (irc☻N☻ 7.24 + 7.0 for mIRC (2000/03/17 22.00)) <Kimusan> meeting died a long time ago <Kimusan> -[ dbCooper ]- no need to keep my words in the log <Kimusan> I heard/saw some bad things happen here <Kimusan> and some 'good' > very few will read that far "down". <_|m0rph|_> cu all *** Quits: _|m0rph|_ () <Kimusan> but this is where we take off <Kimusan> next week <Kimusan> I am being requested to leave irc now too. GF and daughter hanging over my desk now. Giving me nasty looks. > -[ Kimusan ]- bye then. *** Ramona ([email protected]) has left #pc-meeting *** Poway ([email protected]) has left #pc-meeting * Kimusan pats everyon on the shoulder. *** Kimusan ([email protected]) has left #pc-meeting *** embla ([email protected]) has left #pc-meeting * dbCooper is away! ☻ burp ☻ñLog Onñ *** teraphy ([email protected]) has left #pc-meeting > woof ♥1 tHATDUDE- ♥has been idle♥1 57mins 31secs ♥1 TUC ♥has been idle♥1 1hr 32mins 46secs ♥1 ^FurY^ ♥has been idle♥1 6mins 33secs Session Close: Sat Jun 09 13:50:46 2001