Buds Biased Utils Report, 29

Bud's Biased Utils Report #29 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Two weeks in a row on time! That has to be some sort of record for me... and for NWR now that I think of it. Of course I'm assuming as I write this that NWR was on time and you're reading this when you're supposed to be. Whatever. This weeks interesting story was a continuation of last weeks anticipated release, 3DSMAX v3 - if you recall, it was originally released by SGM. Which was then nuked as a beta... well word has it the SGM release came from Harvest, who weren't sure if they had a beta or a final... then we had DOD release a final, which was indeed final from all accounts, except it needed a fix, graciouslly provided by Harvest. Remember how I congradulated them on the class they showed in releasing the fix with no ego to match? Well I may have to take it back... This week Harvest decided to release 3DSMAX itself. The version is identical to DOD's, except Harvest included the setup routine while DOD simply gave you the program. Now we have both sides bickering over which is better... here's my problem. Harvest went to the trouble of FIXING the DOD release. Which means it works, and I've seen plenty of happy users with the DOD copy. So what exactly was the point of Harvest re-releasing... hrmm... well one of the rumors floating about is that all 3 release were identical, INCLUDING the SGM... and despite claims to the contraty, the SGM does indeed work, which would make IT the legit release =) Harvest doing damage control, pissed over the fact that they let 3DSMAX 3 slip through their fingers? Or are the installation options really that important? (I won't get into the addon debate here, this is long enough as it is...). In the end the users will decide I guess... ho-hum... all this huffing and puffing between groups... oh yes and CORPiSO got nailed for using DOD's reg info in it's ISO release... what a mess. And it only hurts the users, some of whom will be downloading what is basically the same shit three times over. Blah... on wit zee show. Disclaimer: It's BIASED moron. My opinion. So don't send me a bunch of mail & messages bitching about this or that. If you don't like it... SCREW YOU =] Rankings: Groups get a score out of 10. Points are given for amount of releases, but QUALITY titles will give a group a much higher score. Nukes for duping, broken releases and just plain CRAP will lower a groups score. However on the occasion that a title is nuked which I don't feel should have been, MY OWN JUDGEMENT TAKES PRECEDENCE. Cuz I'm writing this. Groups can also get points for any other reason I see fit. Week: Week is based from 07/27/99 to 08/02/99. I'm in the EST time zone so dates/times run according to it. Groups: (In no particular order) ▄ ▀▀██▄ ▄ ▄ ▄ ▀█▄ ▀█▌▀█▄ ▐ ▄█▀ ▄▄██▌ A Group ▐█▌ ▐▌ ▐█ █▌▐█▌ ▄█▀ █ That Gives ▄██▌▄▀ ▄██▌▀██▌ ██ ▐▌ Slightly ▀███ ▀███ ▀█ ▐███▄▄ █ Less Than ▐█▌ ▐█▌ ▐▌ ▀██▀ ▀▄ A Fuck. ▀ ▀ ▀ ▀ -XeN PIRATES WITH ATTITUDE: Releases: Enterprise.Monitor.v5.2.for.NT-PWA Materialise.Magics.Communicator.v1.0-PWA Statistics.Server.ISP.v5.0.for.NT-PWA Graphitech.Cimagraphi.Fully.Working.v5.08-PWA Materialise.Magics.RP.v5.01-PWA Materialise.Mimics.v6.12-PWA Inovie.TeamCenter.v2.5.1-PWA Camaix.Project.Manager.for.Mastercam.v7-PWA Lotus.Domino.5.01.Solaris.Intel-PWA Geomagic.Decimater.v1.02-PWA PWA slowed a bit this week compared to the outpouring of last, but still managed some steady releasing of decent titles. Nothing incredible, Statistics Server 5, Cimagraphi, and Enterprise Monitor are the highlights. The releases (of pretty much every group this week) were left in relative obscurity by all the crap and politics (one and the same) going on. Oh and no points for the Solaris, although it's a good release and Lotus has been doing well with that platform. Total: 7/10 ▄───── ▄▄▄ ────────── ▄▄█▓▄ ─── ▄ ─ ▄▓▄ ░ ▀ ▄█████▓ ▄▄███▄ ▄▀▀████▌ ▄█████▄ ▀ ▓███▀ ▀▄██████▄▀█▌ ▐████▐▓▀ ▀███▓ ▓███▌ ▐▓█▀ ▀██▌▐▓ ▀ ▀▓▀▓▌ ▐███▌ ▐█████▄▄▀ ▀█▄ ▄▓█▓ █▓▄ █▌▀▄▄████▓ ▀██▓▀▀ ▀ ▀▀▀▀ ▀ ■▄ ▐▓ ▀▀▓█▀ ■▄──────+ The Corporation +─ ▀▄ ─gas!─■ THE CORPORATION: Releases: SOLIDWORKS.99.PRE-RELEASE.FOR.WIN9X-CORP MICROSOFT.SQL.7.DEVELOPER.CORPORATE.EDITION.FINAL-CORP MICROSOFT.SQL.7.DEVELOPER.CORPORATE.EDITION.FINAL.ADDON-CORP MICROSTATION.GEOGRAPHICS.V7.00.01.05.FINAL.FOR.MICROSTATION.J-CORP MICROSTATION.MODELER.V7.00.01.09.FINAL.FOR.MICROSTATION.J-CORP Practice.Made.Perfect.Management.Software.V4.2.Final-CORP Retail.Star.v4.2-CORP AutoCAD.Architectural.Desktop.v2.0.Migration.Pack-CORP HASP.SUITE.V6.1-CORP HASP.SUITE.V6.1.UTILITY.ADDON-CORP "HASP protects your software from piracy" - too bad they didn't protect themselves. Well we all know HASP, (dongle protection scheme, and if you still don't know I'm not getting into it any further), and while it may seem odd to release a protection scheme designed to work against us, hey - Know thy enemy. Words to live by. That and don't keep old logs... and don't sell copies of software that can be traced back to you... gee I'm just full of wisdom today. Aside from the HASP packs we see the Migration pack for PWA's Architectural Desktop 2 release, as well as the Corporate Dev. copy of SQL 7 from M$, and an early look at SolidWorks 99 for the 9x platform. Not bad, not great, average week from those working at the Corporation. Total: 7/10 . )\_______)\__)\_______)\_______ . . __/ __ _/ _/ ____/ ___/ . . \__ / _\ \_____ \ ___/__ : . :/ \ \ / \ / \| : |\___/ /___/_____ /___ /| : | \_/_____/\____ /_____/___/_____/ | :...`---\_____\/----/_flr_/---/_p^D_/--' RISE: Releases: N/A Total: N/A Well I'm officially retiring RiSE (Really Into Spreading Elite, for those of you who don't know) from the list this week, it's been great having you release over the years. ──────────────────────────────────[XX/XX]─ ▄██ ▄▄▄ ░ ▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄ █▓█ █▓█ ▒ ██▀ █▓█ █ █▓█ ██ █▓█ █ ███ ██ █▓ █▒█ █▒█ █░█ ▀▀ ▄█ █▒█ ██ █▒█ █ ▄▄▄ ██▄▄ ▄██▀██▄ ▀ █▒█▀▀▀ ██ █░█ ██ ▄▄█ █▓█ ██ ▄▄ █▒█ █▓█ ▓ █▓█ ░ █▓█ █░█ ██ ░ █▓█ █▒█ ██ █▓ ███ █▒█ ▒ ███ ▬▀█████▀▄██ ▒ ▀█████▀ ▀████ ─── ██▀ ░ ──────────────── ▓ ───── sikos ─ X-FORCE: Releases: ZAXWERKS_INVIGORATOR_V2.0_FOR_MAYA_2.0_NT_REPACK-XFORCE I think I missed a Linux release... doesn't matter, I'm still not scoring non-win apps for the time being. As for Invigorator, once you get past the repack problem, it's a decent release, and has been used in TV shows such as Sienfeld (not that there's anything wrong with that). Looks to be a nice 3D addon for Maya from what I've seen... too bad that's all we saw from XF for the week. Total: 1/10 /\______/| ___/\_ _/ ______ :|; . __/\ ____/\ __| // %%%\____ \ |__:_\__ \/ ~~ :\_ | __/%%%% iii_/ :| \\_ \ ;| \_ |____/ \iiiii :::\__ ; _/ | \\_ : // | \\_ | \\_::: \____/---|____/____/_______/-|____/kaz SHOCK: Releases: Embarcadero.ER.Studio.v3.5.FINAL-SHOCK Office.In.Color.2000.Platinum.Edition-SHOCK Sax.Setup.v6.0.2440-SHOCK CU-SeeMe.Pro.v4.01-SHOCK Web.Server.4D.e-Commerce.v3.1-SHOCK Freebird.v4.0.for.Acrobat.4-SHOCK Jade.v4.0.for.Acrobat.4-SHOCK Revize.v2.1.Full.Platform-SHOCK Sonic.Foundry.ACID.Style.v1.0d.REAL.WORKING-SHOCK AuctionWatch.Desktop.v1.0-SHOCK EnCase.Pro.v1.995-SHOCK InfoPower.Professional.v4.04-SHOCK IRIS.Antivirus.Plus.v22.22.Upgrade.16bit-SHOCK IRIS.Antivirus.Plus.v22.22.Upgrade.32bit-SHOCK Kiplingers.NetWealth.v1.01-SHOCK Informix.Dynamic.Server.v7.31.TC2-SHOCK A mixed week from SHOCK, and their busiest one of late. Standouts include the new crack for EnCase (at 600KB it's worth to download to see what you thought you deleted), and Embarcadero's ER/Studio 3.5 final. They also beat FCN on the first InfoPower update in a month (Hi Delphic!). They also released a working version of Acid Style, however it seems the loaders used to bypass program protection don't work too well in NT, so while 9x users are fine, NT users should avoid it and wait for a possible fix. Total: 7/10 . ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ .▀████▀▀▀██▄ ████▀▀██▌▐██▀▀▀▀ --- .------. : ████ ███ ▐███ ███ . | ████ ▐███ ███▀ ███ : | ████ ███ ▐███ ▄███ ███▄ . : | ████▀▀▀▀▀ ██▓█ ▀███▄▄██▓▀ . .▄▓███▄ ▀███▌ ▀▀ PRESENTS : | : : [xx/xx]. '---.-------PENTIUM FORCE TEAM-- ---- - -' PENTIUM FORCE TEAM: Releases: VERITAS.Backup.Exec.For.Netware.8.0.Release.T296-PFT VERITAS.WinINSTALL.6.5-PFT VERITAS.Backup.Exec.7.3.Release.2371.WinNT-PFT VERITAS.Client.Exec.2.0.WinNT-PFT Well Veritas got owned, as usual PFT gets out the Backup Exec and related product family apps. SeaGate has sold their Networking and Storage portion of their software division to Veritas, so it's Veritas Backup Exec from now on I guess. Nice welcome to the company on behalf of PFT. Total: 5/10 ▄ ▄ ▄ ▄ ▄▄▓▀▀ ▄ ▄▄█▀▀██▓▄ ▄▄▄█▀▀▓▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄ ▄▄▄▄▄ ▐██▓▌ ▄▄▄▄ ▐█▓█ ▐▓██▌ ▐▓██▌ ███▓ ▓██▌ ███▓ ▓██ ▓▄ ▓██▌ ███▓ ▓██▌ ▐██▓▌ ▐██▓ ▐█▓▌▐██▓ ██▓▌▐███▓ ████▓ ▀▀▀▀ ███▓ ██▓ ▐█▓█ ▀▀▀▀▀ ▄██▓▀ mg ▀ ▀▀▀▀████▓▌ ▀▀ ██▓▀ ▀ ▀▀▀▀▀▀ ▀ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ▀▀▓▀ ▀ ▀▀ ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ ▀ :: <LEGENDS NEVER DiE> ::: <o4 * 2880> :: ▄ ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ ▄ LEGENDS NEVER DIE: Releases: AUTOSHIP_V7.01-LND TIMBERLINE_PRECISION_ESTIMATE_V3.1-LND Slow month overall for LND, Timberline estimate is the better of the two here at least in ranking of the individual apps... check out Grad's latest utils report over on TCA. Total: 5/10 .__________. [xx/xx/98] \_ ___ ) Da ToP oF Da LiNe! .___. ===/ _/ /=======================/ /===== .:/ _____/__./(___.____/\.______./ /_____. :/ /__/ . ) . )____ ) _ ) / __ ) /__/ / / / / // __ / /__/ / /___/: .:/ /__/__/__/__/(______\____ /__/_____ /MO =/__/========================\/========\/=== = THE PINNACLES OF RELEASING (C) PNC 95-98 = PINNACLE: Releases: Cloudscape.v2.0-PNC Metacreations.KPT.Equalizer.v1.0-PNC Metacreations.KPT.Equalizer.v1.0.Serial.Fix-PNC Alive.Media.Control.v1.2.7-PNC Eudora.Pro.v4.2-PNC Power.G.Code.v1.0.for.AutoCAD-PNC Power.G.Lathe.v1.0.for.AutoCAD-PNC Z.File.Camouflage.and.Encryption.System.v3.0-PNC Inetstore.v4.4a.Pro-PNC Picture.an.Event.v2.1-PNC Unravel.2000.for.Oracle.PL.SQL.and.Forms.5.0.v2.1.49-PNC Gatekeeper.Proxy.Server.v3.0-PNC Helpmaster.Pro.v5.0.2-PNC TrakRecord.v1.52e-PNC Another busy group this week was Pinaccle, with the best showing of the month for them. Despite the serial fix required, good work with Metacreations's KPT Equalizer, as well as the newest edition of Eudora Pro (which I'm really debating on switching to). Some other middle of the road stuff, all in all a steady week and good showing from PNC. Total: 7/10 ─ ▄▄ ── ▄▄▄ ─────────░──────────── ─── ── ─ ░▀ ▀█▄ ▀▀ ▀▌ ▀ ■ ▐▄ ■ ▄ ▀ ■ ▀ ▀ ▄▄▄ ▀ █ ▐█▌█ ▀ █▄▀▄ █▀█▄▀██ █ █▄▀▄ ▀▀ ▄▌ █▄▀▄ ▐█▌▄█▀▐█▌ ▐█▌▄ ▐█▌▐█▌▐█▌▐█▌▐█▌▄ █ ▐▀▀▐█▌▄ ▀▓▓ ▀▓▓ ▀▓▓ ▄▀▓▓ ▀ ▓▀ ▀▓▄▀▓█ ▄▐▓▌ ▀▓▓ ▄ ── ▀ ─── ▀ ─ ▀▀ ── ▀ ▀ ──── ▀ ▀▀ ▄▀▀ ─░─ ▀▀ PREMiERE 1998 RELEASES WITH STYLE [xx/xx/98] ──────────────────────────────────────────── PREMIERE: Releases: N/A Total: N/A _______________ ____________ ____________ \_ ___ \_ ___ \ ___ \_ _/ l/ / l/ / l/ / \______ / / / /____ / /| ======\________/\__________/[om]\________/== d(*)d D r i n k O r D i e 1 9 9 8 d(*)d ===================== [ DOD * xx-xxx-98 ] == DRINK OR DIE: Releases: SimCAD_Pro_v.3.1_Win9xNT4-DOD SQL_Programmer_v.IX_Expert_Edition_Win9xNT-DOD Symantec_TalkWorks_v3.0_Win9xNT_FINAL-DOD Collection of nice apps from DOD, with Talkworks 3 final being my choice (since I'll actually USE it :)). Coming off the 3DSMAX rel and all the surrounding contreversy, it's a wonder they got ANYTHING done. Total: 5/10 _______________________________[xx/xx] \_ _ \_ ____/_ _ \_ ____/ |_\ ___/ / _/ ___)/ _/ ___) | \___ \ / | \_ | \ | \ | \ : \ : \ \___| /___ \____ \___ \___ \___ \ ====|__/===\__/===\__/==\__/==\__/==\__/ REBELS: WE MAKE ALL DAYS PARTY DAYS >> RELEASING WITHOUT PERMISSION << REBELS: Releases: TowSoft_v3.6.4_REGGED-RBS Ecad_Plus_V1.91i_Cracked-RBS FlexGen_99_v563-RBS TransLinGo_V2.0_L05_Cracked-RBS An updated version of the generic crack for FlexLM leads the pack... umm, I don't need to do an ElectoMechanical Schematic drawings at the moment, but should I ever need to I'll turn to ECad <g>. Kind of a slow week to Rebel's last one. Total: 5/10 _____ ____________ ____ __________ / __/_ ___/\_ \ ___\_/ __/\ ___\_ \ \ / _/ /_ /___ / \ ___ / \___/\_____/___\ ____/______/_____/pn \_/ VERSUS: Releases: Visual.Assist.2.1.1.1060-VERSUS Random.Password.Generator.Pro.v8.0-VERSUS InstallWiz.Professional.v1.1.6-VERSUS JSentry.Proxy.Server.v2.3-VERSUS Asna.Visual.Rpg.3.0.v8.442-VERSUS QuoteGrabber.v2.0b10f-VERSUS BlinkMap.v1.1.3-VERSUS PostMaster.v3.00b2-VERSUS CoolHunt.v1.24-VERSUS Emerald.Mail.v1.22-VERSUS TextEdit.v4.8-VERSUS Now that's more like it... VRS gets active, following the lead of several other groups... not good on JSentry, VRS finds themselves accused of Serial theft, although I don't even know by who... just showed up as the nuking reason. Hate to see that from Versus, who I normally really like. Nothing special here in the other titles but they are active again at least. Total: 4/10 ..._______________________.___ ____.____... ::/ _______/ ____/ | \/ | \:: _/\____ \/ /___/ | \ \: \ > \ \ \/ \ \ :\__________/\________/_________/|_____|___/ ::.. .:[ SCUM ]:. .:[SCUM]:. .:[SCUM]:. ..:: ```````````````````````````````````````````` SCUM: Releases: SNiFF.Plus.v3.1p2-SCuM IDL.v5.2.1-SCuM Minor update of Sniff+, didn't check it out, also IDL 5.2.1, looking forward to more next week... Total: 3/10 _______________________ ____________ __\ _______/ ______/______/__ / \ __/ / / \/ / / /_______\ /______________\____ /________\ -------------------------------\/----------- (*) F a t i g u e - Couriers Network (*) ___________________________________________. ________________________________________wK!. FATIGUED COURIERS NETWORK: Releases: Addict.v2.32.For.Delphi.And.Cpp.RETAIL.With.Source-FCN Cell.Control.v3.22-FCN NUMEGA_SOFTICE_v4_SUITE_WORKING_NONE_UPGRADE_SERIAL_FIX_FOR_KAMEL_RELEASE-FCN Virtual.Print.Engine.Professional.32bit.v3.0.0.5.FINAL-FCN 1stClass_v1.01_For_Delphi_N_Cpp_UPDATED_VER-FCN EON_REALITY_EON_STUDIO_v2.5_MULTIMEDIA_TUTORIAL_ADDON-FCN EON_REALITY_EON_STUIDO_v2.5-FCN Elsinore_Visual_Intercept_Relay_v1.1.0.83-FCN Elsinore_Visual_Intercept_SDK_v1.1.0.75-FCN Elsinore_Visual_Intercept_v1.1.0.83-FCN Elsinore_Visual_Intercept_Web_v1.1.0.83-FCN WISE_SOLOUTIONS_INSTALL_MANAGER_v7.04_FINAL-FCN 1stClass_v1.01_For_Delphi-FCN ACCUSOFT_IMAGE_GEAR_99_PRO_GOLD-FCN QuickPak_Professional_v4.42-FCN ShazamWare_Solutions_Shazam_Report_Wizard_v3.5_rev_N-FCN Varian_Led_Studio_For_Delphi_v3.1.4-FCN GM_Components_v3.01_Source_Code-FCN Peripheral_Test_Instruments_SCSI_Toolbox-FCN Terminus_Software_DX_Creator_Games_Creation_Software_v1.64-FCN Visual_Zip_Password_Recovery_Multi_Processor_v3.2-FCN XCEEDSOFT_XCEED_ZIP_V4.0_RETAIL-FCN AccuSoft_Medical_Imaging_SDK_DLL32_ProGold-FCN AccuSoft_Medical_Imaging_SDK_OCX32_ProGold-FCN GM_Components_v3.0_Source_Code_For_Delphi-FCN Nevrona_ReportPrinter_Pro_v3.00E-FCN Priority_Enterprise_Management_System_v7.0_For_Oracle_8.0.4-FCN Priority_Enterprise_Management_System_v7.0_For_SQL_Server_7.0-FCN Priority_Enterprise_Management_System_v7.0_For_Tabula-FCN Jeez guys, stop releasing so much, you're taking up half my bloody report! <g>. FCN dominated their niche and got a few other titles out as well. A working solution for SoftICE 4 Suite (we REALLY need to get rid of fake label groups such as Kamel), Wise Solution's Install Manager 7.04, and QuickPak from Crescent. Lots of other goodies in there as well this week. Great work guys, keep it up (I sound like a little league coach here, don't I? :P). Final note, although Eon Studio 2.5 has been released before, some updates have been added since it moved over to a new development team, thus it's not really a dupe. Total: 8/10 _____nnn_____ <$$$$$$$$$$$$$b »»»»»»»»»»»)$$ |$$$$$$$$$$$$$' |$$T```X$f''' |$$$ '$$$L |$$! '9$$$i. |$$ `'$$$$> r a d i u m »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»» RADIUM: Releases: N/A Total: N/A ____________________________________________ __________/\________/\______/\_______/\ \ __ / __ / __ \ _____/ / /__/ / /__/ / /__/ /\___ \ / _____/ ____/ / ) /____/ /___\ \\________/_________/ -s8RO-- -the.\_____\.professionals-- - ____________________________________________ THE PROFESSIONALS: Releases: WinCrete.v1.98-PROS Star.Builder.System.Designer.v7.1.Final-PROS DictaPhone.Boomerang.Voice.Exchange.v2.0-PROS McAfee.Y2K.Survival.Kit.v1.01-PROS Philips.FreeSpeech.2000-PROS Adobe.Photoshop.v5.5.Upgrade.Retail.Boxed-PROS Jasc.Image.Robot.v1.1.Working.Retail.Boxed-PROS Image Robot? How old is that, and what were the "Professionals" thinking :P They do have some nice apps off the shelf here, note Photoshop 5.5 Upgrade, a great pickup for the group. Freespech 2000 is also worth noting. Total: 6/10 HARVEST: Releases: 5D.MONSTER.PLUGINS.FOR.MAYA.FUSION-HARVEST KINETIX.3DSMAXR3.FULL.INSTALL.WORKING-HARVEST KINETIX.3DSMAXR3.SDK-HARVEST KINETIX.CHARACTER.STUDIO.V.2.2.WORKING-HARVEST MAYA.FUSION.FULL.V2.51B-HARVEST ULTIMATTE.V2.04.FOR.MAYA.FUSION-HARVEST 5D.MONSTERS.FOR.DIGITAL.FUSION.V2.51a.OR.LATER.UPDATE-HARVEST DISCREET.EFFECT.V2.12.OPTION.2-HARVEST DISCREET.PAINT.V2.12.OPTION.2-HARVEST Well Harvest has had a decent first month of existance, but I can't agree with the shit that went down this week. First, what should have been kept a private matter between CORPiSO and DOD was thrust into the public spotlight thanks in part to Harvest members. Secondly, after FIXING the DOD release of 3DSMAX, Harvest goes ahead and re-releases it. Guys, YOU FIXED IT - obviosuly at the time you were happy with the DOD copies performance, and it was working with your fix - so changing the story now to say "DOD's doesn't do such and such" doesn't look too great. From the users I've spoken to and overheard, DOD's works fine, despite questionable packing, the need for a fix, and the huge addon... so anyways, Harvest got points for the fix, DOD for the final, and it ends there. If a user decides he wants the Harvest copy, great, but in the end it's a dupe. Aside from that it's mostly plugins this week, and Maya Fusion. Total: 5/10 New this week: N/A Idle this week: RISE, PRM, RDM. Quote(s) of the Week: <Caserd> anyone have the Karate Kid soundtrack <Caserd> ?!?!?! <[STiX]> NO! <SiNs> NO <Caserd> WHY? <Caserd> ITS PHAT I was sort of suprised to see FCN won this week, but the more I think about it the more sense it makes... they did their job and released, with good consistancy, and while in this case the amount did help, there were some nice titles. Special mention to PWA for a great month (#1 for July in my eyes) and DOD for Talkworks. This Monday deadline is really fucking things up for me... looks like I'll be back to finishing the week on Saturday 12PM EST... or maybe Sunday, who knows... fuck it's annoying. I was just getting comfortable with the Tuesday deadline. I removed 2KAD... simply no activity, and when there is activity is minor versions and betas... they have their place but since I'm trying to lighten the load... PRM could be next as they've been at a virtual standstill for quite some time. This heat is keeping me indoors... so with luck I'll be on time next week as well! - Bud